Hi Leo, all,

 

I can’t support the document at this stage, because the points I mention. Possibly they can be accommodated and then I will be happy to support.

 

To state it clearly: Note that my disagreement with the discrimination at the participation of the TF is no a blocking to my support position. On this regards I’m still unable to find the discussion of that participation in the minutes/mail archive, so that needs to be clarified. I will try to re-read all the mail archive today, not just because this, but also in case any of my objections is related to the TF discussions and I could have a different perspective or point to something else.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 29/3/21 10:32, "ripe-list en nombre de Leo Vegoda" <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de leo@vegoda.org> escribió:

 

Dear RIPE Community,

 

I'd like to thank everyone who has already commented on this draft update to the Code of Conduct so far.  

 

I have been keeping track of the comments so the TF has a good idea of what changes we need to make to the draft. I've tabulated them below and it would be good if people could let me know if I have misunderstood what they meant. Also, some people have commented but not stated if they support the daft as is, or would support the draft with a minor change. I've placed a question mark next to names where I'm not sure what a person's position is. It would be great if you could clarify your position.

 

Many thanks,

 

Leo Vegoda
On behalf of the RIPE Code of Conduct TF

 

Commenter

Support

Comment or Delta

Eileen Gallagher

✓

Add: acknowledgments of earlier work done by others when presenting new work

Add: thanking people for their contribution as an example of positive behaviour

Comment: RIPE NCC might want to incorporate the CoC into contracts with venues 

Randy Bush

✓

Keep the CoC tight

Vesna Manojlovic

✓

Add: definition of the CoC Team

Add: call to action

Nit: Add date and authors

Nit: Change “for more than quarter of a century” to “since 1989”

Nit: make the URL ripe.net/coc

Nit: Rename "Behaviour" title to "Inclusive Behaviour" or another alternative

Nit: "people protected" -> remove bullet points, make it a CSV line of text

Gert Doering

✓

—

Maximilian Wilhelm

✓

—

Daniel Karrenberg

✓

Focus more on principles and make it even clearer that the lists are examples and not comprehensive

Do not give the PC a special role 

Nit: Change “national laws” to “laws”

Nit: ONly talk about roles and organisations in the community in general terms

Stated that the obligation to report crimes is very limited

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

?

Nit: Number all sections

Rationale must balance inclusivity against freedom of speech and cultural differences

Include all ways of communicating over the Internet

Does not understand why the PC needs to be consulted

Does contracted workers include subcontractors?

Wants the RIPE NCC staff to always intermediate if a report is made to the police and understands that there could be liability if people know of an incident and do not report it

Add protection for those who do not speak English as a first language

Does not think "calling people names" is clear for non-native speakers

Rephrase “Deliberately outing private details about someone without their consent”

Rephrase “Pushing someone to drink or take drugs”

Add a prohibition against spam

Forbid using language a non-native speaker might misunderstand

Similarly, the CoC Team should accommodate cultural differences

Wants the process in the same document

Sasha Romijn

?

Question about how the team would determine if an act should be reported to the police and a preference for that to be controlled by the subject of the act

Jim Reid

?

Supports Sasha on police report issue

Sander Steffann

?

Supports Sasha on police report issue

Gergana Petrova

?

Clarification on making a police report

Echoes the question about the role of the PC (see above)

Rob Evans

?

Trusted Contacts training gave him the understanding that there is no obligation to make police reports. Trusted Contacts are confidential contacts

Fearghas Mckay

?

Confidentiality and control are important in helping people have the confidence to make a report

 


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