Dear friends, On 2 Apr 2021, at 13:06, Benno Overeinder wrote:
As already mentioned by Gergana in a previous email, why does the PC have the final say in whether the CoC is applied? The CoC should be carried by the community and should always apply, not ifs, no buts.
This was the most recent of a number of comments, including also ones from Gergana (https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2021-March/002141.html) and Daniel (https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2021-March/002135.html), all expressing concern about the following passage in the latest draft RIPE Code of Conduct (v4):
If an event organised by the RIPE NCC has a Programme Committee (PC), the RIPE NCC will consult with that PC before applying the CoC. The relevant PC will have the final say on whether it wishes to implement the CoC within its community and how this is done.
The intent here was not at all to give the RIPE PC any special position, but rather to respect the autonomy of other communities, distinct from RIPE, for which the RIPE NCC organizes events (such as ENOG, MENOG, SEE), and to require the RIPE NCC to ascertain from that community whether they have adopted the RIPE Code before presuming to impose this. Perhaps the following text would suit:
The RIPE NCC regularly organizes events for communities which are distinct from RIPE. When preparing for such an event, the RIPE NCC will ascertain whether the respective community has adopted the RIPE Code of Conduct and, if not, also ascertain which Code must be applied.
I hope this doesn’t add to the concern and confusion. Best regards, Niall O’Reilly