Hi Leo & TF members, 

I’ve been reading up on the CoC and the status of it as of today. 

In the document, there is no mention of unwanted behaviour / attention that could be classified as stalking.

Under the section: aggressive communication, there are several examples of what would be seen as inappropriate behaviour..

However, “classic” stalking (online or in person) is something that I miss here.

Please take this feedback into account before the final version is published.

Regards,

Erik Bais

From: ripe-list <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org>
Date: Monday 29 March 2021 at 10:32
To: "ripe-list@ripe.net" <ripe-list@ripe.net>
Cc: "diversity@ripe.net" <diversity@ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [ripe-list] Updated Draft RIPE Code of Conduct Published for Community Review

Dear RIPE Community,

I'd like to thank everyone who has already commented on this draft update to the Code of Conduct so far.  

I have been keeping track of the comments so the TF has a good idea of what changes we need to make to the draft. I've tabulated them below and it would be good if people could let me know if I have misunderstood what they meant. Also, some people have commented but not stated if they support the daft as is, or would support the draft with a minor change. I've placed a question mark next to names where I'm not sure what a person's position is. It would be great if you could clarify your position.

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda
On behalf of the RIPE Code of Conduct TF

Commenter	Support	Comment or Delta
Eileen Gallagher	✓	Add: acknowledgments of earlier work done by others when presenting new work Add: thanking people for their contribution as an example of positive behaviour Comment: RIPE NCC might want to incorporate the CoC into contracts with venues
Randy Bush	✓	Keep the CoC tight
Vesna Manojlovic	✓	Add: definition of the CoC Team Add: call to action Nit: Add date and authors Nit: Change “for more than quarter of a century” to “since 1989” Nit: make the URL ripe.net/coc Nit: Rename "Behaviour" title to "Inclusive Behaviour" or another alternative Nit: "people protected" -> remove bullet points, make it a CSV line of text
Gert Doering	✓	—
Maximilian Wilhelm	✓	—
Daniel Karrenberg	✓	Focus more on principles and make it even clearer that the lists are examples and not comprehensive Do not give the PC a special role  Nit: Change “national laws” to “laws” Nit: ONly talk about roles and organisations in the community in general terms Stated that the obligation to report crimes is very limited
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ	?	Nit: Number all sections Rationale must balance inclusivity against freedom of speech and cultural differences Include all ways of communicating over the Internet Does not understand why the PC needs to be consulted Does contracted workers include subcontractors? Wants the RIPE NCC staff to always intermediate if a report is made to the police and understands that there could be liability if people know of an incident and do not report it Add protection for those who do not speak English as a first language Does not think "calling people names" is clear for non-native speakers Rephrase “Deliberately outing private details about someone without their consent” Rephrase “Pushing someone to drink or take drugs” Add a prohibition against spam Forbid using language a non-native speaker might misunderstand Similarly, the CoC Team should accommodate cultural differences Wants the process in the same document
Sasha Romijn	?	Question about how the team would determine if an act should be reported to the police and a preference for that to be controlled by the subject of the act
Jim Reid	?	Supports Sasha on police report issue
Sander Steffann	?	Supports Sasha on police report issue
Gergana Petrova	?	Clarification on making a police report Echoes the question about the role of the PC (see above)
Rob Evans	?	Trusted Contacts training gave him the understanding that there is no obligation to make police reports. Trusted Contacts are confidential contacts
Fearghas Mckay	?	Confidentiality and control are important in helping people have the confidence to make a report