Hi Tome:

While my English is not perfect, you really need work on your understanding of the language.

And since this not the subject we discuss here, I will not future respond to you on the language skill.



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---- On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 03:05:18 +0800 Elad Cohen<elad@netstyle.io> wrote ----

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Töma,

Please refrain from listing me in any group, thank you.

This mailing list is not a debates club and not a platform for arguments of each side, serious issues were raised, please allow RIPE NCC to answer instead of creating noise and distraction.

Kind Regards,
Elad
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On Saturday, October 29th, 2022 at 8:28 PM, Töma Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> wrote:


> Peace,
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2022, 6:40 pm Lu Heng, <h.lu@larus.net> wrote:
>
> > Community scrutiny does not in anyway means I speak for anyone else but by myself.
>
>
> Obviously it means exactly that, if it is a "community" scrutiny, and not a "Lu Heng" scrutiny.
>
> This is kind of the definition of it, innit?
>
> A community scrutiny is not a "community member" scrutiny. It is a process that has been approved by rough consensus across the community. Otherwise the board and the NCC would've been overwhelmed with individual requests under the "community scrutiny" disguise.
>
> Your individual concern is your individual concern.
>
> Before pretending that your e-mail is a "community scrutiny", you should've had initiated a proper process in the community and evaluated the outcome, if any.
>
> E.g. organizing a BoF session is an example of a *beginning* of a proper process (to the contrary, and quite notably, submitting a lightning talk candidate is not). You did not do that.
>
> Another way of seeking confirmation that an issue, which is presumably important to you, is also not nothing for the community is sending an e-mail about this issue to the community mailing list and receiving support in feedback. You did send such an e-mail 5 days ago, but the support you've received since then is hardly distinguishable from none.
>
> If this is a community request, then the community we're speaking of is basically you, Elad, and in any case no more than 2 more individuals. Not the RIPE community.
>
> --
> Töma
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