Well maybe a starting point would be for some of the “grey beards” to stop being so confrontational and generally “crusty” when it comes to engaging with new members of the RIPE community. I honestly don’t see how RIPE or any of the other technical groups is going to flourish in the future of it continues to be dominated by a vocal group of, mostly, older white men who have an unhealthy relationship with a Utopian vision of the Internet from 20 odd years ago. The Internet of 2024 is a very different beast from that of the 1990s. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours. From: ripe-list <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Date: Sunday, 4 February 2024 at 21:16 To: RIPE List <ripe-list@ripe.net> Subject: [ripe-list] RIPEng [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. at ripe and nanog we talk about bringing up the next generation. at fosdem they're doing it. a good friend reports that fosdem has a junior track this year. they brought their tweens to it, and it was great! very hands on. vesna or other fosdem attendees, did you look in on the junior track? so what would be a junior program for ripe or nanog? randy -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list