A meme has been going around: "Live your life so that your autobiography will get banned in Florida" (or words to that effect). Let me adapt it: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote: > more so when 3-4 Old Farts hog the mike. If your presentation doesn't make some old farts jump up to the mic, then you didn't work hard enough :-) Having said that, some of the old farts failed to ask actual questions, and often it's not useful to re-litigate every tusscle. The reason I get up at 3am to (remote) attend RIPE meetings "live" is for the discussions, both at the mic-line, and in the chat, and the opportunity to contribute to them. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- *I*LIKE*TRAINS*