On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 19:12, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> The RIPE NCC regularly organizes events for communities which are
>> distinct from RIPE. When preparing for such an event, the RIPE NCC
>> will ascertain whether the respective community has adopted the
>> RIPE Code of Conduct and, if not, also ascertain which Code must
>> be applied.

my naïve view is that, if the ncc is an organiser, then the coc MUST
apply.  


We strongly believe that all RIPE NCC-organised events should follow the 
same CoC, and we think this is something the community should be able to 
agree on.

The updated draft provides for this. We understand that it will apply to all RIPE
NCC-organised events - including RIPE, MENOG, ENOG, and SEE meetings,
as well as things like the Roundtable Meetings, Member Lunches and RIPE
NCC Regional Meetings that we organise. Perhaps the CoC TF can look at
whether this needs to be made clearer in its draft.

Once the community agrees on an updated CoC, the TF will then work to 
define procedures and how a future CoC Team will handle reports and be 
constituted. This is where unexpected details or regional differences could 
become relevant. For example, will members of the CoC Team need to attend 
every Member Lunch and Regional Meeting, or will an email contact be 
enough in some cases? Should there be one CoC Team, or would it be better 
for MENOG, ENOG and SEE to have their own teams with more 
understanding of local contexts?

My understanding is that it was an awareness of these factors that led the TF 
to include this provision, as well as respecting the autonomy of these 
communities, as Niall points out. 

It is my hope and expectation that the outcome of this process should  be a 
single code of conduct that is applied in a more or less uniform way  across all 
of the events that we organise.

Regards

Hans Petter Holen
Managing Director
RIPE NCC