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Re: [address-policy-wg] address-policy-wg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 8
by Gert Doering 12 May '15

12 May '15

Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 06:13:38AM +0000, Kennedy, James wrote: > Well done to Callum for highlighting this issue. I also commend > the /22 hoarding discussion. More should be done to address blatant > RIPE abuse for monetary gain. Turning a blind eye is quite alarming. Well, it's two different aspects that are mixed together here. One is "people managed to get large chunks of address space before the last-/8 policy kicked in, and got rich selling them" (Jump SRL is another example of this). There is not really anything we in address policy can do about this retroactively - and in any case, this is something that will certainly not happen again, as there are no big chunks to be received anymore (but of course the NCC will look into it if fraud happened, and the tax authorities might also be interested...) The other one is something we actually *can* do something as address policy community - reduce ongoing(!) unintended usage ("abuse") of the last-/8 policy. So here we are, and discuss 2015-01 :-) Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

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RIPE 70 Daily Meeting Report: Day 1
by The RIPE NCC 12 May '15

12 May '15

Dear colleagues, The RIPE 70 Meeting started in Amsterdam yesterday with 522 people checked in - a record attendance for a Monday at a RIPE Meeting. The daily meeting report for yesterday is now available: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/report/monday/ There are four plenary sessions taking place today from 09:00 UTC+2. The RIPE Academic Cooperation Initiative (RACI) session will also be broadcast at 18:00 UTC+2. You can follow all today's proceedings remotely at: https://ripe70.ripe.net/live/main/ We hope you'll join us for Day 2! Best regards, The RIPE NCC

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Re: New on RIPE Labs: IPv4 Transfers in the RIPE NCC Service Region
by Callum Stuart 11 May '15

11 May '15

Someone has made the comments on this article from ripe labs. Any comments from the community? How can this kind of thing happen in the ripe? Prior to the ripe depletion, it is even hard for my org to apply for a /19. Now my org can only apply for a /22! So as to keep low profile to have Lu Heng’s IPs sold. He had created another shell named Wuhan Yunwaiheng Information Technology Co., Ltd registered in Wuhan, Hubei Province of China ( its Chinese name is:武汉云外恒信息技术有限公司). And then have his IPs sold under this new shell without attracting too much attentions from the RIPE community. He has earned more than 4millions USD for selling his IPs. By the way, cos of this business structure, he can avoid heaps of taxes which should be paid to Netherland Gov and Overseas Gov. Rijksuniversiteit Groningen ( this is where Lu heng graduated) 31.201.0.0/16 2011-04-28 PA SOLD AS35916 (US） 37.222.0.0/15 PA SOLD AS16276 （ovh, France） ;AS35916 46.136.0.0/16 PA SOLD AS8312（kpn Netherland）;AS35916 5.132.0.0/16 2012-07-12 PA ( Split for sales） /17 left for future sale AS35916 5.224.0.0/15 2012-09-06 SOLD AS35916 178.236.224.0/20 PA Still available for Sale AS16276 Lu Heng still has /17 +/20 left available for Sale in RIPE and one aggregated Afrinic 154.80.0.0/12 ( Currently in Rental business). The Business structure of OutsideHeaven: The main Body of OutsideHeaven was registered in Tax heaven place ( Netherland). Then come the lower Body OutsideHeaven Hangzhou ( registered in Zhejiang Province of China) and the other lower Body Wuhan Yunwaiheng Information Technology ( registered in Hubei Province of China). Under this kind of structure, the company of Lu Heng has avoided to pay the taxes he should pay to the Chinese Government. His main Body registration info: His shell company’s registration info written in holland language. However, you can use google translate to understand. Please note this company does not pay any tax in Holland and in China. Online inzage uittreksel KvK-nummer 01133738 Deze inschrijving valt onder beheer van Kamer van Koophandel Noord-Nederland Onderneming Handelsnamen OutsideHeaven AnytimeChinese Voor Altijd Rechtsvorm Eenmanszaak Startdatum onderneming 26-06-2008 Activiteiten SBI-code: 620102 - Ontwikkelen en produceren van maatwerksoftware SBI-code: 6203 - Beheer van computerfaciliteiten Werkzame personen 0 Vestiging Vestigingsnummer 000005125421 Handelsnamen OutsideHeaven AnytimeChinese Voor Altijd Bezoekadres Esdoornlaan 656, 9741MH Groningen Telefoonnummer 0641734323 Internetadressen www.anytimechinese.com (http://www.anytimechinese.com) www.anytimechinese.net (http://www.anytimechinese.net) E-mailadres info(a)anytimechinese.com (mailto:info@anytimechinese.com) Datum vestiging 26-06-2008 Activiteiten SBI-code: 620102 - Ontwikkelen en produceren van maatwerksoftware SBI-code: 6203 - Beheer van computerfaciliteiten Webdesign. Het exploiteren van een informatieve website. Het geven van informatie over China aan ondernemers. De export van online gamecards. Het beheren van computernetwerken. ICT dienstverlening. Beheren van ICT infrastructuur. Werkzame personen 0 Eigenaar Naam Lu, Heng Geboortedatum en -plaats 01-09-1988, Onbekend, China Adres Esdoornlaan 656, 9741MH Groningen Datum in functie 26-06-2008 One of His Chinese Dummy Corporation named 杭州云外恒网络技术有限公司 in Chinese／English name: outside heaven If you look at its websites, there is no update since 2013 http://www.outsideheaven.com/zh-cn/news You can search the company registration info via link http://122.224.75.235:7082/wsdjpt/ The other of his Chinese Dummy Corporation named Wuhan Yunwaiheng Information Technology Co., Ltd registered in Wuhan, Hubei Province of China ( its Chinese name is:武汉云外恒信息技术有限公司) You can search the company registration info via link http://gssoso.whhd.gov.cn/dhb/index.html Ironically, a Clever Chinese guy without “Euro blood” can be "smart Enough" to have as many RIPE IPs as he can. On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 2:55 AM, address-policy-wg-request(a)ripe.net wrote: > Send address-policy-wg mailing list submissions to > address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net (mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/address-policy-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > address-policy-wg-request(a)ripe.net (mailto:address-policy-wg-request@ripe.net) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > address-policy-wg-owner(a)ripe.net (mailto:address-policy-wg-owner@ripe.net) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of address-policy-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New on RIPE Labs: IPv4 Transfers in the RIPE NCC Service > Region (Sebastian Wiesinger) > 2. Re: New on RIPE Labs: IPv4 Transfers in the RIPE NCC Service > Region (remco van mook) > 3. Re: New on RIPE Labs: IPv4 Transfers in the RIPE NCC Service > Region (Hannigan, Martin) > 4. Re: New on RIPE Labs: IPv4 Transfers in the RIPE NCC Service > Region (Michele Neylon - Blacknight) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 13:54:14 +0200 > From: Sebastian Wiesinger <sebastian(a)karotte.org (mailto:sebastian@karotte.org)> > To: address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net (mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net) > Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] New on RIPE Labs: IPv4 Transfers in > the RIPE NCC Service Region > Message-ID: <20150508115414.GA23553(a)danton.fire-world.de (mailto:20150508115414.GA23553@danton.fire-world.de)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > * Dan L?dtke <mail(a)danrl.de (mailto:mail@danrl.de)> [2015-05-08 11:33]: > > See, we can not win this games. Let?s stop wasting energy and > > resources on dealing with legacy IP and how to make it work for a > > bit longer. New entrants are entering are market that is not fair, > > and we can not make a real difference. The only way forward is to > > push IPv6 and restore a healthy climate regarding the availability > > of IP addresses. > > > > > Dan, > > if you don't want to invest your time trying to make this market more > fair by all means go ahead and do something else. There are still > people here who would like to try so that new players can enter a > market that will be dominated by IPv4 for some time to come. > > Most people here are pushing IPv6 but as much as you want to bury IPv4 > it will still be around for some time. > > Regards > > Sebastian > > -- > GPG Key: 0x93A0B9CE (F4F6 B1A3 866B 26E9 450A 9D82 58A2 D94A 93A0 B9CE) > 'Are you Death?' ... IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE. > -- Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant >

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RIPE 70 Opening Today
by Gergana Petrova 11 May '15

11 May '15

Dear colleagues, RIPE Chair Hans Petter Holen will open the RIPE 70 Meeting in Amsterdam today at 14:00 local time (UTC +2). If you cannot be at RIPE 70 in person, you can follow the meeting and participate remotely by viewing the live webcast and using the chat facilities here: https://ripe70.ripe.net/live To stay up-to-date with all RIPE Meeting updates, follow us on Twitter: @ripemeeting, #RIPE70 Kind regards, Gergana -- Gergana Petrova Conference Coordinator RIPE Network Coordination Centre Singel 258, 1016 AB Amsterdam, The Netherlands T: +31 20 535 4444 www.ripe.net

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RIPE Chair Report May 2015
by Hans Petter Holen 07 May '15

07 May '15

I have just posted the RIPE Chair report. This is a short summary of what I have been doing, and what is on the top of my mind before the RIPE meeting in Amsterdam next week. http://blog.hph.oslo.net/2015/05/ripe-chair-report-may-2015.html Looking forward to see you all at the meeting! -- Hans Petter Holen Mobile +47 45 06 60 54 | hph(a)oslo.net | http://hph.oslo.net

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Call for Comments for a Draft SLA for the IANA Numbering Services
by Nick Hyrka 01 May '15

01 May '15

Dear colleagues, There is a call for comments for a draft Service Level Agreement (SLA) for the IANA Numbering Services. Please find more information on the NRO website here: https://www.nro.net/news/call-for-comments-for-a-draft-sla-for-the-iana-num… The call for comments will remain open until 14 June 2015 at 23:59 (UTC). Kind regards Nick Hyrka Communications Manager RIPE NCC

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RIPE Programme Committee elections at RIPE70
by Filiz Yilmaz 30 Apr '15

30 Apr '15

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE Programme Committee is responsible for recruiting and selecting presentations for the RIPE Meeting Plenary sessions. As the term of two RIPE PC members end, we are looking for new members in 2015 who will be elected by the RIPE community at RIPE 70 in Amsterdam. The Charter of the RIPE Programme Committee (https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-pc-charter) provides more information about the composition and roles of the RIPE PC. There are currently two seats up for election to the RIPE PC. Please send nominations, with a biography, statement of interest and photograph, to pc(a)ripe.net. With the RIPE 70 PC elections, nominations can be sent in from today on until Tuesday May 12th, 15:30. We announce the PC elections at the RIPE meeting opening sessions, but interested parties can nominate themselves already. We will close candidate nominations on Tuesday 15:30, and publish the biographies on the RIPE Meeting web site. Candidates (or stand-ins for candidates) can present themselves at the start of the Tuesday 16:00 session. The RIPE PC online voting system will be open from Tuesday May 12th, 16:00 until Thursday May 14th, 17:30, for the community members to cast their votes. The official announcement of the elected RIPE PC members will be on Friday morning at the start of the 11:00 closing plenary session. Questions about the RIPE PC can be sent to pc(a)ripe.net. Kind regards Filiz Yilmaz Chair, RIPE PC

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[news] RIPE Policy Proposals - April Update
by Marco Schmidt 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Dear colleagues, Please find below the monthly overview of open policy proposals and the stage they have reached in the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP). If you wish to join the discussions about a proposal, please do so on the relevant working group mailing list. Proposals Open for Discussion: 2015-02, "Keep IPv6 PI When Requesting IPv6 Allocation" – discussion open until 13 May 2015 2014-03, "Remove Multihoming Requirement for AS Number Assignments" – discussion open until 19 May 2015 Proposals awaiting impact analysis: 2015-01, "Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations" Proposals accepted: 2014-05, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources" Proposal Overviews: PROPOSAL: 2015-02, "Keep IPv6 PI When Requesting IPv6 Allocation" Overview: This proposal aims to remove the requirement that LIRs should return their IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) assignment when requesting an IPv6 allocation. STATUS: Discussion Phase WHERE TO COMMENT: The Address Policy Working Group – address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net DEADLINE: 13 May 2015 FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-02 PROPOSAL: 2014-03, "Remove Multihoming Requirement for AS Number Assignments" OVERVIEW: This proposal aims to ease the requirements when requesting an Autonomous System (AS) Number. It is proposed to remove the need evaluation, limit the amount of AS Numbers per organization to 1,000 and require that 16-bit AS Numbers are multihomed after nine months. RIPE NCC IMPACT ANALYSIS: Includes point that it will be the End User that decides if the need for an AS Number is technically reasonable. STATUS: Review Phase (extended) WHERE TO COMMENT: The Address Policy Working Group – address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net DEADLINE: 19 May 2015 FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2014-03 ===== PROPOSAL: 2015-01, "Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations" OVERVIEW: Currently IPv4 allocations received from another LIR only can be re-allocated after 24 months, while IPv4 allocations made by the RIPE NCC can be transferred immediately. This proposal aims to align the transfer requirements with a 24 month holding period for all IPv4 allocations. STATUS: Discussion Phase - Awaiting Impact Analysis* FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-01 *The goal of the impact analysis is to provide supporting information to facilitate discussions about the proposal and to outline its possible impact if it were to be accepted. ===== The following proposal has been accepted since the last RIPE Policy Proposal Update. The RIPE NCC has started the implementation of this policy change. PROPOSAL: 2014-05, "Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers of Internet Resources" OVERVIEW: This proposal aims to allow the global transfer of Internet resources. For transfers to the RIPE NCC service region from RIRs that require needs-based policies, recipients must provide the RIPE NCC with a plan for the use of at least 50% of the transferred resources within five years. STATUS: Accepted EXPECTED IMPLEMENTATION: August 2015* FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2014-05 *Note: the RIPE NCC will only follow a policy change once it has been completely implemented and announced to the community. This means that inter-RIR transfers will only be possible from around August 2015. The implementation status of accepted policy proposals can be reviewed here: https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-management/policy-impleme… The RIPE NCC provides an overview of current RIPE Policy Proposals on www.ripe.net: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/current-proposals/current-policy-… During the upcoming RIPE Meeting, the Address Policy Working Group will hold two sessions where ongoing and possible future policy proposals will be discussed. If you can not attend the RIPE Meeting in person, we invite you to join remotely. A live webcast and IRC chat facility will be available for remote participation. The two sessions will begin on 13 May at 7:00 and 9:00 (UTC). The remote participation will be available at: https://ripe70.ripe.net/ We look forward to your involvement in the PDP. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt RIPE Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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RIPE Labs article on how Website Redesign affects Policy Proposal Discussions
by Marco Schmidt 22 Apr '15

22 Apr '15

Dear colleagues, The latest update on RIPE Labs is an article highlighting the simplification of policy proposal discussions thanks to the re-design of www.ripe.net. - Find out how the diff tool allows easy comparison of RIPE documents. - Learn how we improved navigation and participation. - Discover more improved usability elements when you read the full article at: https://www.ripe.net/s/iO45 For comments or questions, you’re welcome to use the RIPE Labs article page or send me a direct email. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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RIPE 70 Programme Now Online & RACI Info
by Gergana Petrova 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Dear colleagues, RIPE 70 takes place at the Hotel Okura in Amsterdam from 11-15 May 2015. You can register to attend at: https://ripe70.ripe.net/register ------------------------ Check out the Programme! ------------------------ RIPE 70 Plenary agenda: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/plenary Monday morning tutorials: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/tutorials BoFs: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/bof Workshops: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/workshops ---- RACI ---- The RIPE Academic Cooperation Initiative (RACI) attracted 19 applications for RIPE 70. After careful consideration, the coordination team selected the following winners: - Alexandra Permyakova, Russia - Martijn Hoogesteger, Netherlands - Roderick Fanou, Spain - Ahmad Alsadeh, Palestine - Andreas Schmidt, Netherlands - Marc Ibrahim, Lebanon - Zakaria Al-Qudah, Jordan These talented academics will present their work at a special RACI session that will take place on the Tuesday evening of RIPE Meeting week. We hope you will attend. More information about the winners and their research areas are available at: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/raci/ ------------ Social Media ------------ To stay up-to-date with all RIPE Meeting updates, follow us on Twitter: @ripemeeting, #RIPE70 Or join the Facebook RIPE Meetings page: https://www.facebook.com/ripemeetings See you in Amsterdam in May! Best regards, Gergana -- Gergana Petrova Conference Coordinator RIPE Network Coordination Centre Singel 258, 1016 AB Amsterdam, The Netherlands T: +31 20 535 4444 www.ripe.net

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