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Networld + Interop - call for CAT volunteers
by k13＠nikhef.nl 07 Sep '94

07 Sep '94

Call for Volunteers: The NetWorld+Interop 94 Paris Conference Assessment Team (CAT) Ziff-Davis Exposition and Conference Company is seeking student volunteers to serve as quality control monitors for NetWorld+Interop 94, to be held in Paris, France, October 26-28, 1994. This is a unique opportunity for students to attend the industry's premier networking conference and tradeshow, while helping us improve the quality and consistency of the conference. As a CAT member you will receive: * Complimentary conference registration for all three conference days * Complimentary NetWord+Interop General Conference notes * Complimentary lunch all three days * Special NetWorld+Interop 94 T-shirt, and * Entrance to the NetWorld+Interop Exhibition. As a CAT member you will be asked to: * Monitor FOUR preassigned conference sessions, by submitting written reports and acting as the "eyes and ears" of the conference organizers. We will provide you with a basic evaluation form to aid the preparation of the reports. (You will be free to attend any conference session and the NetWorld+Interop exhibition on your "time off.") * Provide an accurate count of the number of people attending the sessions you are assigned to. ("Clickers" will be provided!) Successful CAT candidates will be students currently enrolled in a computer science or electrical engineering course at graduate or post-graduate level. Applicants should have some understanding of (and interest in) computer networking issues. All applications must be received by October 1, 1994. Please note that as a CAT member you will NOT receive any travel or subsistence expenses of any nature from Ziff-Davis Exposition and Conference Company. You will be required to fund all your own expenses. To apply, send e-mail to: egille(a)interop.com with a brief biography and relevant contact information. Emmanuelle Gille Programs Manager ZD Expos France

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Re: number of routes (was EOF Minutes)
by Peter Lothberg 04 Sep '94

04 Sep '94

> I note in the EOF minutes the following phrases: > > >For example, we know that the networks numbers from 193.x.x.x to 194.x.x.x > >are dedicated to europe and on the other end the networks numbers from > >198.x.x.x to 199.x.x.x are dedicated to the US. So, it seems to be possible > >to announce these routes with only four routes, but how ? > > I don't want to reduce your enthusiasm, but I would like to observe that we > currently have over 25000 routes. Reducing 25000 to 4 is an interesting > objective, but reducing it to e.g. 250 would already be a very good > result. Or even 2500, for that matter. > Christian Huitema Cutting the number of routes to 10.000 is still a real win, and even more important than the actual number of routes, we have to cut down the amount of routing updates injected into the global Internet. Unfortenly, a lot of network operators/owners out there are not wery helpfull, and they basically force the rest of the network to pay for their (some nasty words here). ---Peter

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RIPE DNS Hostcount August 1994
by Marten Terpstra 01 Sep '94

01 Sep '94

All, To make up for the belated hostcount of last month, here's the August hostcount already. - most countries have made up for their loss in last month's count - a few countries have taken some quite big steps again, to a total increase of over 45,000 (or 5.7%) to almost 835,000 machines in the DNS in Europe. - The total of 835,000 shows that the number has doubled in slightly over a year (July 1993 - 420,000 machines). One million machines should hopefully be reached at the end of the year. - historical overview appended below - all output on ftp.ripe.net:ripe/hostcount. Enjoy, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Sun Jul 31 1994 This Count : Wed Aug 31 1994 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 2 0 0 0 0 at 433 22824 803 22021 + 1003 az 1 0 0 0 0 be 169 13513 233 13280 + 477 bg 11 95 12 83 + 73 by 1 0 0 0 0 ch 324 50641 404 50237 + 1709 cs 43 1957 133 1824 + 41 cy 8 42 2 40 + 23 cz 150 7721 140 7581 + 325 de 2181 164911 4897 160014 + 6493 dk 209 13299 510 12789 + 392 dz 1 0 0 0 - 9 ee 30 748 4 744 + 56 eg 0 0 0 0 - 57 es 390 21909 165 21744 + 230 fi 430 53360 983 52377 + 1976 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 947 75927 1061 74866 + 1594 gb 1 23 0 23 + 1 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 151 3222 217 3005 + 222 hr 73 854 13 841 + 71 hu 94 6038 36 6002 + 435 ie 71 3579 59 3520 + 1658 il 158 7954 160 7794 - 907 is 69 3423 22 3401 + 75 it 611 25961 518 25443 + 3940 li 4 30 3 27 0 lt 10 65 0 65 + 13 lu 22 439 2 437 + 13 lv 14 212 1 211 - 2 ma 1 0 0 0 0 mk 1 0 0 0 0 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 629 71123 2085 69038 + 7278 no 643 40954 684 40270 + 2386 pl 343 7258 259 6999 + 106 pt 146 4737 73 4664 + 115 ro 20 427 30 397 - 60 ru 86 788 79 709 + 97 se 808 60691 1143 59548 + 2313 si 31 1213 26 1187 + 60 sk 68 1129 13 1116 - 94 su 224 3945 224 3721 + 198 tn 3 47 1 46 + 12 tr 55 1720 36 1684 + 356 ua 46 397 33 364 - 25 uk 2060 194293 17460 176833 +12611 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 3 0 0 0 0 ============================================================ 11778 867469 32524 834945 +45198 This is an overview of the History of the RIPE hostcounts. It only contains the totals. The totals for 1990-1991 should be considered rather unstable and unreliable because the program used then was not really tuned, plus the count was not done as regular as it is now. Count : total hostcount for all European top level domains Delta : delta since previous count Delta % : delta as percentage of previous count Q Delta : delta over the past quarter Q Delta%: delta over last quarter as percentage of end of last quarter count For the Q Deltas I have not calculated those back before 1992, because the figures for 1990-1991 are not too reliable. *) Dec 1991 hostcount estimated at 135,000. Count Delta Delta % Q Delta Q Delta % ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 + 1941 + 6.1% Dec 1990 29230 - 4435 - 13.2% Jan 1991 43832 + 14602 + 50.0% Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 + 674 + 1.5% Apr 1991 46948 + 2442 + 5.5% May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 + 16319 + 34.8% Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 + 9802 + 15.5% Sep 1991 92834 + 19765 + 27.0% Oct 1991 104824 + 11990 + 12.9% Nov 1991 129652 + 24828 + 23.7% Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 + 11656 + 9.0% Feb 1992 161434 + 20126 + 14.2% Mar 1992 167939 + 6505 + 4.0% + 32939 *) + 24.4% *) Apr 1992 170050 + 2111 + 1.3% May 1992 182528 + 12478 + 7.3% Jun 1992 196758 + 14230 + 7.8% + 28819 + 17.2% Jul 1992 213017 + 16259 + 8.3% Aug 1992 221951 + 8934 + 4.2% Sep 1992 232522 + 10571 + 4.8% + 35764 + 18.2% Oct 1992 254585 + 22063 + 9.5% Nov 1992 271795 + 17210 + 6.8% Dec 1992 284374 + 12579 + 4.6% + 51852 + 22.3% Jan 1993 303828 + 19454 + 6.8% Feb 1993 322902 + 19074 + 6.3% Mar 1993 355140 + 32238 + 10.0% + 70766 + 24.9% Apr 1993 366164 + 11024 + 3.1% May 1993 385522 + 19358 + 5.3% Jun 1993 404930 + 19408 + 5.0% + 49790 + 14.0% Jul 1993 426827 + 21897 + 5.4% Aug 1993 451116 + 24289 + 5.7% Sep 1993 469356 + 18240 + 4.0% + 64424 + 15.9% Oct 1993 500018 + 30662 + 6.5% Nov 1993 533701 + 33683 + 6.7% Dec 1993 553357 + 19656 + 3.7% + 84001 + 17.9% Jan 1994 587135 + 33778 + 6.1% Feb 1994 623158 + 36023 + 6.1% Mar 1994 655164 + 32006 + 5.1% +101807 + 18.4% Apr 1994 693346 + 38182 + 5.8% May 1994 735317 + 41971 + 6.1% Jun 1994 760385 + 25076 + 3.4% +105221 + 16.1% Jul 1994 789747 + 29362 + 3.8% Aug 1994 834945 + 45198 + 5.7%

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Announcement of 19th RIPE Evening Dinner - Lisbon, Portugal
by Anne Lord 29 Aug '94

29 Aug '94

* ANNOUNCEMENT * * ANNOUNCEMENT * * ANNOUNCEMENT * * ANNOUNCEMENT * * 19th RIPE Meeting Dinner Tuesday, September 13th, Lisbon Venue: FAIA Rua da Barroca, 54/56 Bairro Alto Lisbon Time: 8:30pm The RIPE Evening Dinner for this meeting has been kindly organised by Graca Carvalho. The dinner will be in a "Fado" restaurant. "Fado" is a very special kind of music and song that can only be found in Lisbon. The food that will be served is typically Portugese. The menu for the dinner is as follows: Linguica Portuguesa (Portugese sausage) Carapaus de Escabeche (Mackerel with onion sauce) -00- Melao com presunto (Melon with smoked ham) -00- Escalopes de vitela recheados com presunto (Veal Scallops stuffed with smoked ham) -00- Trouxas de ovos com gelado (Sweet Egg rolls with ice-cream) -00- Cafe' (Coffee) -00- Vinho do Douro (Wine from the Douro region) Please note: *The cost of the dinner is fixed at Hfl. 70,- inc. drinks. The exact price to be paid in Portugese Escudos will depend on the exchange rate on the day of the dinner. At todays rate, the dinner will cost Price: 7.000$00 Escudos. This will be payable in CASH on the day of the dinner. Please reply to Graca Carvalho <graca(a)rccn.net> if would like to have a place reserved for you at the dinner. Unfortunately you will not be able to attend without prior registration, so please let us know asap. Thanks! Anne and Graca. - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - -- 19th RIPE Meeting, Lisbon Evening Dinner 13th September, 1994 < > I will be attending the RIPE Evening Dinner < > I will be bringing a guest(s). Please state below how many guests you will be bringing No. of guests: < > Please indicate if you are a vegetarian or have special dietary needs vegetarian : special diet, please specify : < > Name: < > Email address: - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - --

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1994 error...
by Marten Terpstra 26 Aug '94

26 Aug '94

Panagiotis Tzounakis <pj(a)forthnet.gr> writes * Marten, * I think Cyprus and Greece were accidentally swaped in the * RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1994.... Indeed they were. Post-holiday blues I guess. Please all find below the corrected hostcount. I have not included the history because the total figures have not changed. All files on ftp.ripe.net have been corrected as well. -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Thu Jun 30 1994 This Count : Sun Jul 31 1994 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 2 0 0 0 0 at 415 21758 740 21018 + 1404 az 1 0 0 0 0 be 161 13027 224 12803 + 688 bg 2 15 5 10 - 71 by 1 0 0 0 0 ch 308 48901 373 48528 + 2113 cs 54 1916 133 1783 - 521 cy 2 17 0 17 - 21 cz 142 7370 114 7256 - 70 de 2101 158019 4498 153521 +11394 dk 201 12894 497 12397 + 259 dz 2 9 0 9 + 2 ee 30 692 4 688 + 50 eg 4 57 0 57 0 es 385 21698 184 21514 - 227 fi 412 51407 1006 50401 + 3477 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 863 74369 1097 73272 + 4671 gb 1 22 0 22 + 1 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 204 2920 137 2783 - 15 hr 59 783 13 770 - 58 hu 90 5596 29 5567 + 149 ie 25 1873 11 1862 - 680 il 168 8857 156 8701 + 530 is 68 3350 24 3326 + 165 it 590 21975 472 21503 - 2010 li 4 30 3 27 0 lt 8 52 0 52 - 1 lu 22 426 2 424 + 10 lv 15 214 1 213 + 26 ma 1 0 0 0 0 mk 1 0 0 0 0 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 602 62783 1023 61760 + 2374 no 621 38297 413 37884 - 904 pl 341 7102 209 6893 - 291 pt 143 4609 60 4549 + 237 ro 28 460 3 457 + 43 ru 59 679 67 612 + 159 se 769 58346 1111 57235 + 1500 si 30 1151 24 1127 + 291 sk 74 1226 16 1210 + 153 su 213 3688 165 3523 + 300 tn 2 35 1 34 - 12 tr 51 1356 28 1328 + 122 ua 56 436 47 389 + 112 uk 1394 181146 16924 164222 + 4013 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 3 0 0 0 0 ============================================================ 10731 819561 29814 789747 +29362

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RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1994
by Marten Terpstra 25 Aug '94

25 Aug '94

[ Some people may have received some old mail from us over the last minutes or so. Due to an error, we have resent some mail that was originally sent in May this year. Apologies. ] Folks, Here is the (belated) hostcount for July 1994. Due to holidays the results are only available now, but the data was actually gathered at the end of July. - A few countries show a slightly lower count this month. Due to my absense I have not been able to re-count them. - Overall an increase of over 29,000 (or 3.8%) to almost 790,000 machines in the European part of the DNS. - Those who want to pick up some data from the usual place (ftp.ripe.net:ripe/hostcount) have to hurry up, because the files will be replaced by the August hostcount next week. Sorry. Cheers, -Marten ----- RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Thu Jun 30 1994 This Count : Sun Jul 31 1994 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 2 0 0 0 0 at 415 21758 740 21018 + 1404 az 1 0 0 0 0 be 161 13027 224 12803 + 688 bg 2 15 5 10 - 71 by 1 0 0 0 0 ch 308 48901 373 48528 + 2113 cs 54 1916 133 1783 - 521 cy 204 2920 137 2783 + 2745 cz 142 7370 114 7256 - 70 de 2101 158019 4498 153521 +11394 dk 201 12894 497 12397 + 259 dz 2 9 0 9 + 2 ee 30 692 4 688 + 50 eg 4 57 0 57 0 es 385 21698 184 21514 - 227 fi 412 51407 1006 50401 + 3477 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 863 74369 1097 73272 + 4671 gb 1 22 0 22 + 1 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 2 17 0 17 - 2781 hr 59 783 13 770 - 58 hu 90 5596 29 5567 + 149 ie 25 1873 11 1862 - 680 il 168 8857 156 8701 + 530 is 68 3350 24 3326 + 165 it 590 21975 472 21503 - 2010 li 4 30 3 27 0 lt 8 52 0 52 - 1 lu 22 426 2 424 + 10 lv 15 214 1 213 + 26 ma 1 0 0 0 0 mk 1 0 0 0 0 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 602 62783 1023 61760 + 2374 no 621 38297 413 37884 - 904 pl 341 7102 209 6893 - 291 pt 143 4609 60 4549 + 237 ro 28 460 3 457 + 43 ru 59 679 67 612 + 159 se 769 58346 1111 57235 + 1500 si 30 1151 24 1127 + 291 sk 74 1226 16 1210 + 153 su 213 3688 165 3523 + 300 tn 2 35 1 34 - 12 tr 51 1356 28 1328 + 122 ua 56 436 47 389 + 112 uk 1394 181146 16924 164222 + 4013 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 3 0 0 0 0 ============================================================ 10731 819561 29814 789747 +29362 This is an overview of the History of the RIPE hostcounts. It only contains the totals. The totals for 1990-1991 should be considered rather unstable and unreliable because the program used then was not really tuned, plus the count was not done as regular as it is now. Count : total hostcount for all European top level domains Delta : delta since previous count Delta % : delta as percentage of previous count Q Delta : delta over the past quarter Q Delta%: delta over last quarter as percentage of end of last quarter count For the Q Deltas I have not calculated those back before 1992, because the figures for 1990-1991 are not too reliable. *) Dec 1991 hostcount estimated at 135,000. Count Delta Delta % Q Delta Q Delta % ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 + 1941 + 6.1% Dec 1990 29230 - 4435 - 13.2% Jan 1991 43832 + 14602 + 50.0% Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 + 674 + 1.5% Apr 1991 46948 + 2442 + 5.5% May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 + 16319 + 34.8% Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 + 9802 + 15.5% Sep 1991 92834 + 19765 + 27.0% Oct 1991 104824 + 11990 + 12.9% Nov 1991 129652 + 24828 + 23.7% Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 + 11656 + 9.0% Feb 1992 161434 + 20126 + 14.2% Mar 1992 167939 + 6505 + 4.0% + 32939 *) + 24.4% *) Apr 1992 170050 + 2111 + 1.3% May 1992 182528 + 12478 + 7.3% Jun 1992 196758 + 14230 + 7.8% + 28819 + 17.2% Jul 1992 213017 + 16259 + 8.3% Aug 1992 221951 + 8934 + 4.2% Sep 1992 232522 + 10571 + 4.8% + 35764 + 18.2% Oct 1992 254585 + 22063 + 9.5% Nov 1992 271795 + 17210 + 6.8% Dec 1992 284374 + 12579 + 4.6% + 51852 + 22.3% Jan 1993 303828 + 19454 + 6.8% Feb 1993 322902 + 19074 + 6.3% Mar 1993 355140 + 32238 + 10.0% + 70766 + 24.9% Apr 1993 366164 + 11024 + 3.1% May 1993 385522 + 19358 + 5.3% Jun 1993 404930 + 19408 + 5.0% + 49790 + 14.0% Jul 1993 426827 + 21897 + 5.4% Aug 1993 451116 + 24289 + 5.7% Sep 1993 469356 + 18240 + 4.0% + 64424 + 15.9% Oct 1993 500018 + 30662 + 6.5% Nov 1993 533701 + 33683 + 6.7% Dec 1993 553357 + 19656 + 3.7% + 84001 + 17.9% Jan 1994 587135 + 33778 + 6.1% Feb 1994 623158 + 36023 + 6.1% Mar 1994 655164 + 32006 + 5.1% +101807 + 18.4% Apr 1994 693346 + 38182 + 5.8% May 1994 735317 + 41971 + 6.1% Jun 1994 760385 + 25076 + 3.4% +105221 + 16.1% Jul 1994 789747 + 29362 + 3.8%

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RIPE Meeting www page by local hosts
by Anne Lord 25 Aug '94

25 Aug '94

Dear All, I have made a link from the RIPE NCC www page on the "Details of the Next RIPE meeting" (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/ripemtgs.html) to the URL below, which was prepared by the local organisers in Lisbon. Thanks to them for doing a good job! Anne ------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 22:35:51 +0000 From: Carlos.Picoto(a)di.fc.ul.pt (Carlos Picoto) To: Anne Lord <Anne.Lord(a)ripe.net> cc: pmv(a)di.fc.ul.pt, amorim(a)ptearn.cc.fc.ul.pt Subject: Re: 19th RIPE meeting in Lisbon - ANNOUNCEMENT Dear Madam, We have setup at our WWW server an iformation page about the RIPE meeting, with some relevant photos and schemes. The URL is http://www.fc.ul.pt/ripe This was done by the Informatics Department (Prof. Pedro Veiga and myself) coop erating with the Computer Center of the Faculty and with Prof. Pedro Amorim. Best regards. ____________________________________________________________________ Carlos Picoto | e-mail: Carlos.Picoto(a)di.fc.ul.pt Departamento de Informatica | Tel : +351 1 7573141 (X: 2557) da Faculdade de Ciencias | Fax : +351 1 7577831 da Universidade de Lisboa | URL : http://www.fc.ul.pt/cap.html Campo Grande - Bloco C5 | ISDN : +351 1 7510003 1700 LISBOA / PORTUGAL | ____________________________________________________________________ ------ End of Forwarded Message

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New Document available: ripe-118
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 24 Aug '94

24 Aug '94

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-118 Title: List of Internet Registries in Europe Author: RIPE NCC Date: 24 August 1994 Format: PS=98337 TXT=51087 Obsoletes: ripe-111 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Old: Short content description ------------------------- ripe-118 is a list of European Local Internet Registries in Europe. It is intended to clarify who should be contacted for IP network numbers. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-118.txt for the ASCII version ripe-118.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the RIPE document by FTP or mail server. SEND ripe/docs/ripe-118.txt

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RIPE 18 actions status report - Second reminder (AUGUST)
by Anne Lord 24 Aug '94

24 Aug '94

Dear All, Below is the list of action items from the RIPE meeting (and previously). The actions are grouped into two different categories: "Done" and "Open". If you are on the list with an action against your name, would you please reply confirming the status of that action : ie. whether it has been "Done" or whether it is still "Open", with an expected approx date for completion, if possible. The last reminder will be sent out one week before the RIPE meeting. ie. soon. cheers, Anne ----------- Action List - RIPE 18 ===================== 1. Done Action: 16.6 Daniel Karrenberg Why return unused IP address space and be a good network citizen. Daniel to find volunteer to continue the work - obsolete. Action:18.1 Daniel Karrenberg Convey RIPE's concern at the disparity in criteria with respect to IP network number applications to the InterNIC - mailing list set up. Action:18.2 NCC Draft new standard European Internet Network Number Application Form (formerly ripe-107) in light of recommendations from the working group. Action: 18.6 NCC Set-up a mailing list for the connectivity WG. Action: 18.8 NCC Fold in comments from routing-wg to the ripe-81++ draft, send to RIPE list and release final version - June 28th. Action: 18.11 NCC Put A. Romao's paper "Taking Care of your Domain" into the RIPE document store as a RIPE document. 2. Not Done Action: 15.10 Daniel Karrenberg To propose new tags "created" and "assigned" to the database working group for consideration - pending. Action: 16.18 NCC Try to actually get the synchronisation of the various database going, using the recently agreed DB Exchange Format. Action is dependant on the NIC handle - pending. Action:17.1 Glenn Kowack Volunteered to write a paper for discussion which would focus on a future funding model for the RIPE NCC. Action:17.7 Wilfried Woeber, NCC To produce the necessary documentation for the new DB software. Action: 17.8 NCC To update and re-circulate the RIPE-Handle proposal and then go ahead with the implementation. Action: 17.11 NCC Investigate and propose a syntax-checking facility for the new database software. Action: 17.15 NCC Propose and implement a mechanism to properly keep track of individual updates of objects and automatic merge/ modification operations. Action:17.17 Bernhard Stockman Draft a new version of the EEPG Terms of Reference and distribute this on the mailing list ASAP. Action:17.18 Bernhard Stockman Draft a new version of the EEPG Workplan and distribute this on the EEPG mailing list ASAP. Action: 17.20 Oleg Tabarovsky To collect data on external lines and restrictions applying to each line that will form part of the Russian backbone. Send details to <oleg(a)ussr.eu.net> Action: 17.21 Rob Blokzijl Summarise in a paper discussions on RIPE re-org and publish before next meeting. Action:18.3 NCC Investigate monthly publication of error files on reverse zone files, similar to the host count error files. Action:18.4 Mike Norris Initiate discussion w.r.t the funding and charging for the service of a Local IR on the Local-IR discussion list and aim to summarise the discussions by way of a draft recommendation. Action: 18.5 Wilfried Woeber Post the CEEnet Initiative maps to the RIPE FTP server. Action: 18.7 Elise Gerich To supply a list of keywords allowed that can be used when querying the database. Action: 18.9 Cristina Vistoli, Ewald Jenisch, Michael Ernst (Hans Frese) To convert from ripe-60 to ripe-81 before July 1st, 1994. Action:18.10 Francis Dupont Circulate a proposed new domain object with the list of attributes necessary, marking others optional, maybe obsolete them in the future. Update to RIPE-049. Action: 18.12 Erik-Jan Bos Set up Workplan, Terms of Reference and Euro-FAQ, to be send to the mailing list. Tony Bates said he could help EJB on the FAQ. Action:18.13 Erik-Jan Bos Send to the mailing list where to find the worldwide PS file (done through these minutes). Action: 18.14 All members of the Mbone WG See if there is a local Mbone mailing list in your country, if not, create one and add this list to the European list, so that European information is passed on. Action: 18.15 Erik-Jan Bos Start up a central European Mbone FTP server. Action: 18.16 Everyone in the Mbone WG Send in your Mbone maps to Erik-Jan Bos. Action: 18.17 RIPE Chairs Promote a more aggressive "outreach" programme io introduce and encourage new service providers to join RIPE. Action: 18.18 RIPE Chairs Continue the RIPE restructuring discussions on the <new-ripe(a)ripe.net> mailing list focusing on restructuring the technical work of RIPE. Action:18.19 RIPE Chairs Develop a draft model for "new-RIPE" by the next RIPE meeting in September, with the final report ready by January meeting in 1995. ripe-m-18.txt

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Re: number of routes (was EOF Minutes)
by pichon＠rain.fr 19 Aug '94

19 Aug '94

> I note in the EOF minutes the following phrases: > > >For example, we know that the networks numbers from 193.x.x.x to 194.x.x.x > >are dedicated to europe and on the other end the networks numbers from > >198.x.x.x to 199.x.x.x are dedicated to the US. So, it seems to be possible > >to announce these routes with only four routes, but how ? > > I don't want to reduce your enthusiasm, but I would like to observe that we > currently have over 25000 routes. Reducing 25000 to 4 is an interesting > objective, but reducing it to e.g. 250 would already be a very good result. Or > even 2500, for that matter. > > One of the reasons why I do not believe in the "reduction down to 4" is that > it smacks of monopolies, implies a very unusual amount of coordination. It is > perfectly sensible for an European network provider to manage its own > international connectivity, without going through a particular "common fat > pipe". This is not only natural, but a very sound competition strategy. And it > does imply that this provider will announce its own reachability lists, > without aggregating them under the continent's prefix. > > Christian Huitema > In fact, my aim was not so ambitious. What I mean was that it was possible to replace these 4 blocks (about 1000 C class addresses) by four aggregates. Of course, it was out of question to concentrate all the internet addresses into four aggregates only. Marc

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