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Re: DANTE CERT Service
by Stephan.Biesbroeck＠belnet.be 03 Dec '94

03 Dec '94

I am very surprised by this announcement. The service announced here in in my opinion NOT a CERT service but a CERT coordination service. I have some questions/remarks with this : - How does this fit into the Concert-in-E proposal ?? - Such a european coordination body can only have success if : - it is supported by all the service providers in Europe. When dealing with security issues, you just can't differentiate between national research networks and commercial providers. - all service providers need to have trust into the provider of this service (sorry but I am afraid that this is not the case for DANTE). - there is only one such coordination service in Europe. You can't have several of such coordination centre. In that case you will miss "the coordination". - I am surprised that some organisation declares one-sided that it will take on this role (even if "some" national networks have asked so). Normally such a coordination task should be set up in cooperation with all the service providers in order to have success. But probably I am just misreading the announcement and it doesn't has anything to do with a CERT coordination Center. Please tell me the difference in that case. Best regards, Stephan Biesbroeck --- Stephan Biesbroeck Tel: +32(0)2-2383470 stephan(a)belnet.be Fax: +32(0)2-2315131 Service Support Team of the Belgian National Research Network, BELNET Howard Davies wrote : > DANTE is pleased to announce that, at the request of a number of > national networks, it proposes to create a European level CERT > service. > The objectives of the DANTE CERT service will be: > - co-ordination of incident handling between member CERTs and > with other incident response teams worldwide > - co-ordination of technical assistance to member CERTs > - maintenance of an information server on operational aspects > of computer security > - assistance for the establishment of new CERTs > - providing backup and support to resolve problems that cannot > be handled by a member CERT. > The DANTE CERT service will build on the expertise and experience > of the national CERTs that are already in place. An important > aspect of the organisational structure will be to minimise the > overlap of activities and to ensure that all available resources > are used in the optimum way. > The DANTE CERT will participate fully in existing international > bodies dealing with incident response and security. Full > membership of FIRST will be applied for. > As is DANTE's normal practice, many of the operational components > of the DANTE CERT activity will be sub-contracted; discussions on > how best to do this are already taking place with organisations > which are interested in carrying out this task. > The DANTE CERT service is expected to be established early in > 1995. Its priority will be to serve the networking organisations > in the European research community but other organisations may > also subscribe. Subscribing organisations will pay an annual fee > which will be set as a function of size of the community that the > organisation represents. > Individuals who wish to be included on the mailing list for the > announcement of further details should send a request in reply to > this message > Howard Davies > HD(94)276

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RIPE 19 actions status report (DECEMBER)
by ncc＠ripe.net 02 Dec '94

02 Dec '94

------- Below is the list of action items from the RIPE meeting (and previously). The actions are grouped into two different categories: "Done" and "Open". If you are on the list with an action against your name, would you please reply confirming the status of that action : ie. whether it has been "Done" or whether it is still "Open", with an expected approx date for completion, if possible. The next reminder will be sent out mid December. David Kessens RIPE NCC ------------- Action List - RIPE 19 ===================== 1. Done Action: 19.9 Marten Terpstra To set up environment to allow objects to be sent to "a test database". Action: 19.16 Stephan Biesbroeck To ask RIPE NCC to create a trouble ticket only mailing list which is maintained by the RIPE NCC. 2. Open Action: 17.1 Glenn Kowack Volunteered to write a paper for discussion which would focus on a funding model for the RIPE NCC. Action: 17.7 Wilfried Woeber, NCC To produce the necessary documentation for the new DB software - ongoing Action: 17.8 NCC To update and re-circulate the RIPE-Handle proposal and then go ahead with the implementation - pending. Action: 17.11 NCC Investigate and propose a syntax-checking facility for the new db software. volunteer needed. Action: 17.20 Oleg Tabarovsky To collect data on external lines and restrictions applying to each line that will form part of the Russian back-bone. Send details to <oleg(a)ussr.eu.net>. Action: 18.3 Geert Jan de Groot Investigate monthly publication of error files on reverse zone files, similar to hostcount error files. Action: 18.5 Wilfried Woeber Post the CEEnet Initiative maps to the RIPE FTP server. Action: 18.16 Everyone in the Mbone group Send in your Mbone maps to Erik-Jan Bos. Action: 19.1 RIPE NCC To survey RIPE community on content of RIPE NCC Quarterly Reports. Action: 19.2 Mike Norris At the 20th meeting to raise the training of local IR's as a topic for discussion. Action: 19.3 Daniel Karrenberg To make an inventory document of the problems associated with charging for address space. Action: 19.4 Daniel Karrenberg To recirculate draft proposal on use of private address space for VSE's not connecting to the Internet. Circulate proposal to the WG mailing list. Action: 19.5 RIPE NCC To organise a meeting between regional registries, with representatives from the RIPE local - IR working group. Action: 19.6 Geert Jan de Groot To document new attribute "status" proposed to describe whether a network is delegated, reserved or assigned. Action: 19.7 RIPE NCC Circulate revised reipe-115 to the local-ir mailing list for comments. Action: 19.8 Daniel Karrenberg To prepare specification for the format of the list of service providers. Action: 19.10 Erik Jan Bos, Wilfried Woeber Written proposal to extend the "inet-rtr" object ready before RIPE 20. Action: 19.11 RIPE NCC To propose new domain object for in-addr.arpa. Action: 19.12 Marten Terpstra To write up the proposed "stored"/"proc essed" attribute. Action: 19.13 Milan Sterba Send e-mail to the prospective contributors to the CDS. Action: 19.14 Erik-Jan Bos Write document describing how to use the rtr-obj to describe location of m-routers. Action: 19.15 Erik-Jan Bos Find out about other vendors' implementations of PIM.

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ns.ripe.net will change IP address
by Geert Jan de Groot 25 Nov '94

25 Nov '94

Hi, Somewhere in the next couple of weeks, ns.ripe.net will change IP address. The new box will have DNS recursion disabled (i.e. you cannot resolve off it), to make chances lower to get infected by bogus resource records without affecting intended operation. This should go unnoticed to you, except: - If you have a DNS glue record for ns.ripe.net, I ask you to remove the glue record. No zone except ripe.net needs it, newer DNS software ignores it but there is a lot of old software around.. - If you resolve off ns.ripe.net (some do, for backup reasons), I ask you to look for another solution. Please get in touch with <ncc(a)ripe.net> if you feel this is too much of a problem. Many thanks to the people that I contacted last week to open up their nameservers to allow the new box to get the zones too. As far as I know, all zones are loaded at the new box. We will maintain a nameserver at the old address for some time after the switch, mainly to detect straggle pointers to the old address. Please refer questions to <ncc(a)ripe.net>. Thanks, Geert Jan

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Ebone press release
by Ebone mailbox 18 Nov '94

18 Nov '94

EBONE is established as an Association and prepares for 34 Mbps =============================================================== The Ebone association --------------------- In the recent past Ebone, a European Network providing Internet IP and ISO CLNS, has gained substantial stability and its prospects for the future are clear. Ebone enjoys a rapidly expanding membership, both in terms of capacity and in terms of new members organizations. Seeing this high demand it is no surprise that Ebone is being upgraded continuously. From 1 July 1994 to the end of January 1995, the overall backbone and trans Atlantic capacity will be increased by a factor of 75 % to 12 Mbps. This proves the strong need for Ebone services, therefore the Ebone Consortium of Contributing Organizations decided to re-model Ebone into an Association to provide further stability also in legal terms. On 2 November 1994 the Ebone Association was formed under French law. Its first Executive Committee officers are: - Christian Michau from Renater, France, President, - Peter Rastl from ACONET, Austria, Vice-President, - Dave Morton from ECRC, Germany, Treasurer and - Dennis Jennings from HEANET, Ireland, Secretary. Technical development --------------------- The global Internet is developing at a speed without parallel, with connected organizations multiplying exponentially. A serious challenge to the Internet infrastructure capacity is the so-called multicast services that have recently found a growing market. Therefore Ebone is configuring multicast using Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) in its PoPs in order to reduce multiplication of multicast packets. This new development will be operational by the end of January 1995. Ebone configuration planned for January 1995 -------------------------------------------- Vienna 2048 Munich EBS--------ACONET (AT) US (GIX) ------------EBS / CARnet (HR) | / CESNET (CZ) | / Hungarnet (HU) 2048 | /1536 NASK (PL) | / Roman. AC net (RO) | / SANET (SK) 3584 Paris 2048 Geneva US (GIX) -------------EBS-----------EBS -------ILAN (IL) | | RENATER (FR) BELNET (BE) BT (UK) CINECA (IT) DATAnet (FI) ECRC (DE) FCCN (PT) FCRU (EG) FORTH (GR) HEANET (IE) Internetway (FR) Lisbon University (PT) PIPEX (UK) SwipNet (SE) Tipnet (SE) Transpac (FR) Transpac (SE) Plans for 1995 and beyond: 34 Mbps and more. ------------------------------------------- The Ebone Association with its state-of-the art-capabilities in terms of equipment, manpower and routing, is in an excellent position to start piloting 34 Mbps networking for research in Europe in order to provide high speed services, compliant with the Bangemann report. Ebone is looking for participation to its initiative to organize a framework for interconnecting between service providers (peering) at 34 Mbps in Europe. Ebone is also interested in participating in the ACTS programme and sees the interconnection of the ACTS's National Hosts as a highly valuable contribution to coordination of national interconnections in Europe. Ebone will put forward a proposal to the EC in the framework of ACTS. For more information contact: Christian Michau, Ebone chairman, Renater, France, phone +33 14427 4260, fax +33 14427 2613, e-mail christian.michau(a)urec.fr Frode Greisen, Ebone general manager, UNI-C, Denmark, phone +45 3582 8355, fax +45 3183 7949, e-mail frode.greisen(a)uni-c.dk

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RIPE Database Transition T2
by Marten Terpstra 17 Nov '94

17 Nov '94

Dear all, Apologies for this wide distribution but I think it is important enough. This is a reminder that coming Monday the 21st of November, the second and last step of the RIPE database transition will take place. This transition is the transition from network number objects that hold all policy information, to route objects that contain all this information. For more detailed info on what exactly will change and how, please read ripe-123 which is available as: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-123.{txt|ps} Especially section 5 explains forthe various RIPE database user groups what is going to change. -Marten

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in-addr.arpa
by Hank Nussbacher 10 Nov '94

10 Nov '94

Up till a week ago I would send in my in-addr.arpa requests to internic.net. They are now telling me they don't handle it anymore. How do other sites handles in-addr.arpa registrations? Thanks, Hank

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Re: in-addr.arpa
by Marko.Kaittola＠dante.org.uk 09 Nov '94

09 Nov '94

This is an automatic reply. Feel free to send additional mail, as only this one notice will be generated. The following is a prerecorded message, sent for -- Thanks for your message. I will deal with it as soon as possible (although this may imply a long delay). My schedule looks roughly like this: Week 42 Travelling in London and Zurich. I may be able to read my mail on Thursday. I may also read my mail on the week-end. Week 43 Holiday - not available for anything Week 44 Holiday - not available for anything Week 45 Holiday - not available for anything Week 46 Return to office. Try to sort out the backlog. End of the week in an EEMA conference. Week 47 Meeting on Monday. Tuesday in office. Wednesday to Friday at Utrecht. Week 48 E-Mail world at Boston Week 49 IETF in California If you really need to get hold of me, DANTE's office should be able to help you. They should also be able to deal with most of the issues you would want to talk to me. Please contact them at dante(a)dante.org.uk S=dante; O=dante; P=dante; A=mailnet; C=fi; Tel +44 223 302 992 Fax +44 223 303 005

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Re: in-addr.arpa
by Hank Nussbacher 09 Nov '94

09 Nov '94

On Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:43:45 +0100 (MET) you said: >Hank Nussbacher wrote: >> >>Up till a week ago I would send in my in-addr.arpa requests to >>internic.net. They are now telling me they don't handle it anymore. >>How do other sites handles in-addr.arpa registrations? > >Maybe it was just for certain domains such as - for instance - the >193.in-addr.arpa domain which is handled by the RIPE NCC ? No it wasn't: !From: Inaddress Registration Role Account <inaddr(a)internic.net> !Subject: Re: Plz add to in-addr.arpa zone !To: HANK(a)taunivm.TAU.AC.IL (Hank Nussbacher) !Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 13:46:58 -0500 (EST) ! !Dear Coordinator: ! ! !Your request is in the block of 192.114.0.0 - 192.118.255.0. 0ur policy is !to delegate the block to the listed Service Provider. It is the Service !Providers responsiblity to provide inaddr service to networks within this !block and to notify potential requestors to contact them instead of the !INTERNIC on server additions, changes, and etc. ! !Please contact your Service Provider to initiate inaddr service. ! !Regards, !Registration Serivce It is from a block I got from nic.mil.net about 4 years ago. > >-- Robert Martin-Legene, = EUnet Denmark = > DKnet, Fruebjergvej 3, DK-2100 Kobenhavn O, +45 39 17 99 00 Hank

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Re: Press Release on Host Counts
by stev＠ftp.com 07 Nov '94

07 Nov '94

> By the way, when is the "uk" going to convert to a legitimate country code > (such as gb)? > > --jon. > I have hopes that the United Kingdom registration with ISO 3166 will change the two-character code from 'gb' to 'uk'. this is an interesting solution to the problem. i wonder if the same can be done for OZ?

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Re: Press Release on Host Counts
by pwj＠informatics.rutherford.ac.uk 07 Nov '94

07 Nov '94

Jon: > From postel(a)EDU.ISI Sun Nov 6 01:39:26 1994 > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 17:38:39 -0800 > From: postel(a)EDU.ISI (Jon Postel) > To: amr(a)org.isoc, pwj(a)uk.ac.rutherford.informatics > Subject: Re: Press Release on Host Counts > Cc: isoc-trustees(a)org.isoc, isoc-advisory-council(a)org.isoc, circ(a)uk.ac.ukerna, > ripe-list(a)net.ripe, kalin(a)nl.rare > Sender: postel(a)EDU.ISI > Content-Length: 706 > > > Phil: > > I've only got partial data to work with, but the growth rate of the > US domain is greater than that of the UK domain, even with most of the > registrations going into the COM and other domains instead. > > Date UK %change US %change > > Oct 92 48213 ? > Jan 93 58431 21.19 692 > > Jul 93 89788 53.67 1340 93.64 > > Jan 94 113930 26.89 6541 388.13 > > Jul 94 155706 36.67 16556 153.11 > Oct 94 194350 24.82 24861 50.16 > > In Oct 94, the UK domain is number 3 and the US domain is number 19. > I am very happy with rapid rise in the size of the .us domain. > By the way, when is the "uk" going to convert to a legitimate country code > (such as gb)? > > --jon. > I have hopes that the United Kingdom registration with ISO 3166 will change the two-character code from 'gb' to 'uk'. Best wishes, Phil (Manager, UKERNA Network Services Group) (p.jones(a)ukerna.ac.uk) (not yet phil(a)jones.com :-) (DDI: +44-1235-446618, S-B: +44-1235-445724, Fax: +44-1235-446251) (post: UKERNA, Atlas Centre, Chilton, Didcot, OXON, OX11 0QS, UK)

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