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Re: [ripe-list] [ENOG discuss] Re: Sunsetting ENOG - sunsetting of RIPE?
by Алексей Учакин 05 Jul '23

05 Jul '23

Hi, all! I would like to believe that this "freeze" in RIPE NCC' activities in Russia is connected just with formal issues. And I want to believe that RIPE NCC will try to unite its members (and members of RIPE community) in different ways. BTW, as a co-host of linkmeup[1], I'm ready to provide slots in our podcast and our off-line meetup in Moscow[2] to discuss any technical topics relevant for ENOG meetings. [1] - https://t.me/linkmeup_podcast [2] - https://meetup.linkmeup.ru/ пн, 3 июл. 2023 г. в 20:51, Alexander Isavnin <isavnin(a)freemoscow.university >: > Dear Hisham! > > Thank you for the kind words to the ones, who contributed their time and > effort to ENOG! > > Did i got right from your e-mail, that RIPE NCC is going to abandon it’s > activities in Russia? No Internet Measurement Days or RIPE NCC days seen in > forseeable meeting plans on the website. > So called Baykal NOG you’ve mentioned is the sales-oriented commercial > conference aka x-cos.ru, previously sponsored by SORM surviellance > equipment producers. > > Abandoning technical community in one country (even insistently requested > by some persons from other) could lead to abandoning in other countries, > and then fading role of the whole technical community and sunsetting of > RIPE. > > Kind regards, > Alexander Isavnin > > Пн, 3 июля 2023 г. в 16:05, Hisham Ibrahim <hmi(a)ripe.net>: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> ENOG (Eurasian Network Operators' Group) was established in June 2011 as >> a means to bring RIPE and the RIPE NCC closer to the local communities in >> Eurasia and to support Internet development in the region. >> >> Last year, we indefinitely postponed what would have been the 19th ENOG >> Meeting, slated to be held in Moscow. In the run up to that decision, we >> heard from many community members, first at a Birds of a Feather (BoF) >> session on the future of ENOG at ENOG 19 and subsequently during the BoF at >> RIPE 85 in Belgrade and on the ENOG Discuss mailing list. I then shared an >> email to the ENOG Discuss list, outlining the RIPE NCC’s view on the matter >> [1]. >> >> These dialogues highlighted the complexities involved in continuing >> engagement efforts through ENOG and we appreciate the community’s >> willingness to have difficult but much needed conversations. In light of >> these discussions, we believe it is time to dissolve ENOG as a RIPE NCC >> regional platform. It is in no one’s interest to continue to support a >> platform that can no longer serve its purpose or deliver meaningful >> outcomes. If, in the future, the community indicates that there is a >> constructive role for ENOG to play, we will be open to this discussion. >> >> In practical terms, this means that we will archive the ENOG website and >> sunset the mailing list as of 31 July 2023, after which it will be kept as >> a read-only site. ENOG Meetings have already ceased to take place, and we >> will not plan ENOG Meetings for the foreseeable future. We thank everyone >> who has contributed their time and effort towards ENOG over the past decade. >> >> The RIPE NCC remains as committed as ever to supporting the technical >> communities in our service region. Our focus going forward will be on more >> localised efforts, whether this is training, workshops, providing staff to >> speak at events or supporting NOGs. >> >> Since our decision to postpone ENOG 19, we have also hosted our first >> Central Asia Peering and Interconnection Forum meeting in Kazakhstan last >> year, and the second of these events will take place in Tashkent, >> Uzbekistan from 19-20 September 2023 [2]. We will continue to host smaller >> events such as RIPE NCC Days and Internet Measurement Days (IMD) in the >> region that used to be covered by ENOG events, such as the IMD Kyrgyzstan >> which took place recently. We’ve supported other events including the KZ >> NOG, Baykal NOG, the Georgia NOG, the Kyrgyzstan IT Forum and the Central >> Asia, Armenia, Georgia and Moldova Internet Governance Forums (IGFs). We >> continue to engage with the Ukrainian Internet community through various >> online initiatives and our staff in Ukraine. >> >> We encourage you to take a look at NOGs and other activities taking place >> within the region [3]. >> >> Please reach out to us if you have thoughts on how we can better support >> the technical communities in your region. >> >> Regards, >> Hisham Ibrahim >> Chief Community Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> [1] A request to terminate ENOG: >> https://enog-apps-2.ripe.net/hyperkitty/list/discuss@enog.org/thread/3AJSUF… >> >> [2] CAPIF 2: Tashkent: >> https://www.ripe.net/capif-2 >> >> [3] Network Operator Groups: >> https://labs.ripe.net/nogs/ >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list -- discuss(a)enog.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave(a)enog.org >> > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list -- discuss(a)enog.org > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave(a)enog.org > -- С уважением Учакин Алексей.

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Re: [ripe-list] [ENOG discuss] Re: Sunsetting ENOG - sunsetting of RIPE?
by Dmitry Kohmanyuk 03 Jul '23

03 Jul '23

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Last Call for Draft Document: RIPE NCC Staff Participation in the RIPE Community
by Mirjam Kuehne 29 Jun '23

29 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, The deadline for comments for the draft document “RIPE NCC Staff Participation in the RIPE Community” [1] ended. Many thanks for all the comments sent to the RIPE list. There was a lot of support for the document, especially for the principle that RIPE NCC staff are part of the RIPE community. It is great to see that RIPE NCC staff is welcome and valued by community members. There were some suggestions to explicitly allow RIPE staff to take on certain community roles. Other community members disagreed and cautioned that this could lead to conflict of interests. Hans Petter Holen clarified that there are also RIPE NCC internal guidelines for staff. There were no concrete suggestions for changes in the document. I believe that the current version is ready for adoption and publication as a RIPE Document and would like to confirm this. This is therefore a LAST CALL for comments, to expire on Monday 10 July at 06:00 UTC (08:00 Amsterdam time). Unless there are some substantial comments, I look forward to declaring consensus and arranging publication shortly after that. Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Chair [1] RIPE NCC Staff Participation in the RIPE Community https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-documents/other-documents/ripe-…

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RIPE NCC Survey 2023: Congratulations and Final Chance to Win
by Adonis Stergiopoulos 29 Jun '23

29 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, Congratulations to Ian Dickinson from the UK who won the most recent prize in the RIPE NCC Survey and decided to donate 250 euro to the Red Cross. The survey is open until 23:59 UTC tomorrow, and there are still prizes to be won including a trip to RIPE 87 in Rome! https://www.ripe.net/survey We have nearly 4,000 completed responses and we'd like to thank all those who have participated. If you haven't yet taken the survey, I urge you to do so before the deadline. It will play a big role in how the RIPE NCC operates in the coming years. Best regards, Adonis Stergiopoulos Senior Marketing & Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Survey for scientific paper "Digital warfare in times of the Ukraine war – Analysis of the cyberwar on the internet from the perspective of local ISPs"
by Niklas Plugge | TKRZ Stadtwerke GmbH 27 Jun '23

27 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, my name is Niklas Plugge, I am a network engineer at AS42184 (TKRZ Stadtwerke GmbH) in Germany. I am studying computer science in a bachelor degree beside my work as a network engineer. Within my study, I am currently writing a scientific paper with the title "Digital warfare in times of the Ukraine war – Analysis of the cyberwar on the internet from the perspective of local ISPs". In the paper, I want to explain how ISPs and other internet organizations experience the cyberwar in their daily work and which consequences they face. In my opinion, ISPs and internet organizations get a good overview about the things that happen to the internet-infrastructure, especially during times of war. That is one of the reasons, why I want to highlight their perspectives in this paper. For the perspectives of different organizations, I created the following survey to collect opinions and experiences of other colleagues: https://forms.office.com/e/w3jtDcQYaz I would be really grateful, if you could participate in this survey. If you have any questions about the scientific paper or the survey, please do not hesitate to ask me. Thanks and kind regards, Niklas Plugge

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Chris Buckridge Leaving the RIPE NCC
by Hans Petter Holen 27 Jun '23

27 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, After having been such a big part of our organisation and the RIR system for many years, Chris Buckridge will be leaving the RIPE NCC on 30 June. After starting his career with APNIC in Australia, Chris joined the RIPE NCC in 2006 and quickly found his niche in supporting, and later leading, our engagement efforts with governments and regulators across our service region, as well as the various Internet governance forums we participate in. He was promoted to External Relations Manager in 2015 and then Head of External Relations in 2019. Since 2021, Chris has been Advisor to the Managing Director on Global Strategic Engagement, focusing on issues relating to the wider multi-stakeholder governance model, including sanctions, where he developed contacts with governmental officials and created opportunities that helped to support better understanding of the impact of sanctions on the Internet. As many who have crossed paths with him will attest, Chris has been a great ambassador both for the RIPE NCC and the RIPE community during his time here. He played a key role in developing the strong external relations capacity we have at the RIPE NCC, benefiting us and the technical community in many ways. Chris helped to ensure a strong presence at the IGF and EuroDIG communities and made many contributions to these events over the years. He supported our efforts to engage on various EU legislative proposals, ensuring that the role of the multi-stakeholder model, as enshrined in the Tunis Agenda, was recognised in legislation. He also made a meaningful contribution towards work on the IANA Stewardship Transition, which was successfully completed in 2016. Chris is currently serving on the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), a position which is independent from the RIPE NCC. As Chris will remain in this role, and will no doubt find new avenues to explore within the Internet governance space, we expect and hope that he will remain a familiar face in the years to come. On behalf of all of us at the RIPE NCC, I wish him the very best. The RIPE NCC’s work in the public policy and Internet governance arena continues as part of the organisation’s external engagement and community activities led by Hisham Ibrahim, our Chief Community Officer. The Public Policy and Internet Governance team can be reached at <ppig(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards Hans Petter Holen Managing Director RIPE NCC

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Call for Hosts for RIPE 89, 90 and 91 (Deadline 30 June)
by RIPE NCC Event Team 23 Jun '23

23 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, We have extended the deadline for submitting proposals to host RIPE 89 (28 October – 1 November 2024), RIPE 90 (19-23 May 2025) or RIPE 91 (20-24 October 2025). Interested parties should submit their proposals latest by *30 June 2023*. A RIPE Meeting Host helps with venue scouting, Internet connectivity, social events, finding local sponsors and administrative and on-site support. As a host, we must be able to depend on you to help organise a smooth, professional and top-quality meeting for our attendees. In return, the host organisation enjoys excellent visibility among the RIPE community and the prestige of hosting a RIPE Meeting. Interested? You can find more information at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe-meetings/call-for-host Please send in your proposals to meeting(a)ripe.net I look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Sandra Gijzen On behalf of the RIPE Meetings Team

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RIPE NCC Internet Country Report: Central Europe
by Suzanne Taylor 20 Jun '23

20 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, How far do traffic paths travel between networks in Poland? How many IPv4 addresses has Czechia exported? Which domestic networks provide international connectivity into and out of Hungary and Slovakia? We delve into all of this and much more in our latest RIPE NCC Internet Country Report, which focuses on four countries in Central Europe: https://labs.ripe.net/author/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/ripe-ncc-internet-countr… The report provides an analysis of the Internet landscape in Czechia, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia, including these countries’ market players, capacity for future growth in the wake of IPv4 run-out, connections between networks, upstream providers, access to K-root, traffic paths, routing security and more. The RIPE NCC Internet Country Reports draw mainly on data collected by the RIPE NCC and serve to provide insight for both technical communities and policymakers across our service region. I hope you’ll find our latest report interesting and will consider sharing it with anyone else who you think may benefit from its findings. Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback to share - we’d love to hear from you. Best regards, Suzanne ______________ Suzanne Taylor Public Policy & Internet Governance RIPE NCC www.ripe.net

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New on the RIPE Labs Podcast: To Serve the Board
by Alun Davies 15 Jun '23

15 Jun '23

Dear colleagues, In this new episode of the RIPE Labs Podcast, my colleague Anastasiya Pak talks to Christian Kaufmann about his 12 years on the RIPE NCC Executive Board and how the demands of the role have changed dramatically in that time: https://labs.ripe.net/author/anastasiya-pak/to-serve-the-board/ Best regards, Alun Davies RIPE Labs Editor RIPE NCC

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The Future of Discussion Lists
by Leo Vegoda 08 Jun '23

08 Jun '23

Dear RIPE community, At yesterday’s community plenary I asked whether mailing lists are sustainable as our main communication channel. For those who were not able to attend, the slide and a recording are available here: - https://ripe86.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/12-Mailing-Lists-R… - https://ripe86.ripe.net/archives/video/1115 I am obviously concerned that discussion lists might not serve us with fidelity in the future. If that is the case, I want us to manage any change we need to make. We should not be bounced into rapid change. There was more discussion than I expected. I’m sending this message to ask the questions: - Am I wrong? Are e-mail discussion lists a sustainable communication channel for the foreseeable future? - Are e-mail discussion lists an acceptable technology to people joining the industry? The text below is similar to something I shared with the WG Chairs several months ago. Kind regards,. Leo ripe-781 describes four fundamental principles supporting our policy development process. The first two principles are openness and transparency. Changes in the treatment of e-mail by large industry players presents a challenge to these two principles. In 1992, when ripe-001 was published, anyone could run e-mail services on any Internet infrastructure they could use. It is now far more difficult to run e-mail services. Technology developments, like DMARC, have made discussion mailing lists less effective. Validation failures increase the probability of messages being treated as junk. Subscribers to RIPE's discussion lists will miss messages when their e-mail services provider treats them as junk. When a legitimate message to a RIPE discussion list is treated as junk the sender's voice has been moderated by a third-party mail provider. RIPE's transparency is diminished when its discussion lists are subjected to gatekeeping by third-party mail providers. In 1992, e-mail was an improvement to postal services and telephony protocols. In 2023, we have a wide choice of communication protocols and platforms. I believe that new protocols and platforms are preferred over e-mail by potential participants in RIPE at the start of their careers. We want these people to take part in RIPE. They are the future of coordination for the operators of IP networks in Europe and the rest of the world. We must offer all current and potential participants in RIPE an effective set of tools. Any tools we use must support the principles of openness and transparency. An ideal set of tools might have features like this: 1. An open protocol available for implementation by anyone. 2. Free(ly available) software implementations for popular operating systems (Android, iOS, Linux, macOS, and Windows). 3. Allows a user to choose to have activity pushed to them. They must not be forced to maintain a login to be informed of activity they are interested in. 4. A public archive that cannot be retrospectively edited (barring exceptional situations). While the technology choices need to support the principles of openness and transparency, they do not need to do all the work. Announcements, blog posts, and other kinds of communications can be built into our processes. The combination of technology and process can make the whole more effective.

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