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Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
by Christian Orozco 02 Aug '21

02 Aug '21

I definitely concur with the suggestion of passing a transfer policy. It provides much autonomy which is crucial in the current circumstances. Freedom of choice is very important especially now that the discussion has ramped up and more uncertainties are coming from AFRINIC. It is about time that we allow those willing to scale and assess the risks to just do so. Right? Moreover, a more capable registry can provide better service possibly along with lower fees and even a more stable governance. With better resource handling, all these benefits can be enjoyed by users. Isn't that what is important? Regards, Christian On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 8:39 PM Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss < community-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: > It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers > and pass a transfer policy. > > Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this > situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile > transfer out - problem solved. > > It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the > community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if > AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely > zero risk in this approach. > > Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other > legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the > current legal situation > > I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its > members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been > echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should > therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said > risk if it is within their powers to do so > > Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the > merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system > should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this > situation. In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be > nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members > mitigate their risks as they see fit > > > Andrew > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM > *To:* Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> > *Cc:* arin-discuss <arin-discuss(a)arin.net>; secretariat < > secretariat(a)nro.net>; Community Discuss <community-discuss(a)afrinic.net>; > apnic-talk <apnic-talk(a)lists.apnic.net>; ripe-list <ripe-list(a)ripe.net>; > Members Discuss <members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service > migration to other RIRs > > Good day all, > > I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has > been watered down now). > > If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards > a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only > right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat. > Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to > save the region. > I will like the community to see this as “option 1”. > > Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so > likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to > carry out its duties? > > If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members. > > If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the > financial breakdown. > > That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward > and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive. > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> > wrote: > > > > Hello community > > I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate > sentiments. > > Let me try this again: > In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC > (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service > function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted > to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses. > > Regards > Paul > > > > ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner > <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net>>* wrote > ---- > > Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large. > > The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and > especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, > which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s > inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its > inability to meet its financial requirements. > > I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's > hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry > service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as > well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s > registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some > time later. ( > https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-f… > ) > > That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come > out of litigation. > > Regards > Paul Wollner > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >

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RIPE Community Resilience and Wellbeing Update
by Erik Bais 02 Aug '21

02 Aug '21

Dear RIPE community, We thought we would provide an update on the RIPE Community Resilience and Wellbeing session we held 2 weeks ago. It was a really constructive session with lots of good ideas. Participants shared the challenges they’ve been facing during the COVID-19 pandemic and the positives of engaging more online. Participants also came up with helpful tips and practices for dealing with home working such as joining a book club, regular wellbeing sessions, packing away the home office in the evenings and ‘cycling to work’ from home and back. We will be holding a follow up session in September after the summer break and for this session we will be inviting a guest speaker. If you have any suggestions of who could speak on wellbeing and mentalhealth, please email: trustedcontact(a)ripe.net<mailto:trustedcontact@ripe.net>. We will provide more details about the September session nearer the time, hope to see you then. Regards, Erik Bais

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Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
by Erick Joshua Lagon 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

The implementation of the resource transfer policy ( https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d4#details) would enable AFRINIC to reduce the risks in case their situation goes sideways. However, I do not agree with an emergency policy when a transfer policy is awaiting implementation. They should focus on that transfer policy implementation because it is the right thing to do now. Regards, Erick On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:55 PM Thizwilondi Malupa <sienqle(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Robert , > > I think Andrew made a very good point, despite your argument that he is > pushing for the transfer policy for some other reasons. Passing a > transfer policy would by all means reduce the risk of having AFRINIC badly > affected entirely , including this community . And I think if we have a > transfer policy in place it will also be good for future challenges. But > not that it will always be a solution to look at during a crisis , but it > will be helpful to have it in case it needs to be used . I suggest you > look at it in a way where you put the interest of the future of the > AFRINIC mind. > > Regards, > Ishmael > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 3:50 PM robert ford via Community-Discuss < > community-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: > >> Typical of Andrew about transfer of rights. He clearly knows what he >> would use such transfer policy for. >> >> Glad rightful thinking members of African Internet community understand >> the baits >> >> RF >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 1 Aug 2021, at 15:44, Lamiaa Chnayti <lamiaachnayti(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives the >> resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess >> AFRINIC is putting them through. >> >> But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we >> already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has >> achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies >> the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.* >> >> >> Best regards, >> Lamiaa CHNAYTI >> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss < >> community-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: >> >>> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers >>> and pass a transfer policy. >>> >>> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this >>> situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile >>> transfer out - problem solved. >>> >>> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which >>> the community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if >>> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely >>> zero risk in this approach. >>> >>> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of >>> other legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from >>> the current legal situation >>> >>> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its >>> members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been >>> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should >>> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said >>> risk if it is within their powers to do so >>> >>> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on >>> the merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system >>> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this >>> situation. In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be >>> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members >>> mitigate their risks as they see fit >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88(a)gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM >>> *To:* Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> >>> *Cc:* arin-discuss <arin-discuss(a)arin.net>; secretariat < >>> secretariat(a)nro.net>; Community Discuss <community-discuss(a)afrinic.net>; >>> apnic-talk <apnic-talk(a)lists.apnic.net>; ripe-list <ripe-list(a)ripe.net>; >>> Members Discuss <members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service >>> migration to other RIRs >>> >>> Good day all, >>> >>> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement >>> has been watered down now). >>> >>> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending >>> towards a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it >>> is only right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry >>> afloat. >>> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming >>> to save the region. >>> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”. >>> >>> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not >>> so likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to >>> carry out its duties? >>> >>> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members. >>> >>> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of >>> the financial breakdown. >>> >>> That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward >>> and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive. >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello community >>> >>> I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate >>> sentiments. >>> >>> Let me try this again: >>> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC >>> (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service >>> function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted >>> to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses. >>> >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner >>> <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net>>* >>> wrote ---- >>> >>> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large. >>> >>> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and >>> especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, >>> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s >>> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its >>> inability to meet its financial requirements. >>> >>> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other >>> business's hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core >>> registry service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their >>> responsibility as well as commitment to the global internet to take over >>> AFRINIC’s registration service for the time being, until litigation is >>> settled some time later. ( >>> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-f… >>> ) >>> >>> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results >>> come out of litigation. >>> >>> Regards >>> Paul Wollner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >

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Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
by Paul Wollner 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, which is attached to this email, regarding the AFRINIC’s inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its inability to meet its financial requirements. I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some time later. (https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-f…) That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come out of litigation. Regards Paul Wollner

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Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
by Lamiaa Chnayti 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives the resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess AFRINIC is putting them through. But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.* Best regards, Lamiaa CHNAYTI On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss < community-discuss(a)afrinic.net> wrote: > It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers > and pass a transfer policy. > > Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this > situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile > transfer out - problem solved. > > It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the > community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if > AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely > zero risk in this approach. > > Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other > legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the > current legal situation > > I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its > members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been > echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should > therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said > risk if it is within their powers to do so > > Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the > merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system > should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this > situation. In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be > nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members > mitigate their risks as they see fit > > > Andrew > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM > *To:* Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> > *Cc:* arin-discuss <arin-discuss(a)arin.net>; secretariat < > secretariat(a)nro.net>; Community Discuss <community-discuss(a)afrinic.net>; > apnic-talk <apnic-talk(a)lists.apnic.net>; ripe-list <ripe-list(a)ripe.net>; > Members Discuss <members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service > migration to other RIRs > > Good day all, > > I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has > been watered down now). > > If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards > a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only > right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat. > Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to > save the region. > I will like the community to see this as “option 1”. > > Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so > likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to > carry out its duties? > > If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members. > > If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the > financial breakdown. > > That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward > and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive. > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> > wrote: > > > > Hello community > > I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate > sentiments. > > Let me try this again: > In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC > (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service > function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted > to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses. > > Regards > Paul > > > > ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner > <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net>>* wrote > ---- > > Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large. > > The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and > especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, > which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s > inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its > inability to meet its financial requirements. > > I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's > hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry > service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as > well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s > registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some > time later. ( > https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-f… > ) > > That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come > out of litigation. > > Regards > Paul Wollner > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >

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Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

Even if a transfer policy is adopted, *before* any transfer AFRINIC has the right to verify the resources are being used according to the policies, RSA, documentation/justification provided when it was allocated/assigned, etc., etc. If the resources don’t follow the rules, the RIR (not just in the case of AFRINIC) has the right to enforce (before the transfer) the rules or reclaim the resources. Each RIR has sligtly different rules clearly, but in no case, a transfer policy shall be allowed to be used as a way to circumvent the existing rules of the origin RIR! Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 1/8/21 15:01, "Taiwo Oye" <taiwo.oyewande88(a)gmail.com> escribió: Thank you @andrew. It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers and pass a transfer policy - point 2 On Aug 1, 2021, at 13:38, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> wrote: It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers and pass a transfer policy. Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile transfer out - problem solved. It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely zero risk in this approach. Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the current legal situation I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said risk if it is within their powers to do so Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this situation. In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members mitigate their risks as they see fit Andrew Get Outlook for iOS From: Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88(a)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM To: Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> Cc: arin-discuss <arin-discuss(a)arin.net>; secretariat <secretariat(a)nro.net>; Community Discuss <community-discuss(a)afrinic.net>; apnic-talk <apnic-talk(a)lists.apnic.net>; ripe-list <ripe-list(a)ripe.net>; Members Discuss <members-discuss(a)afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs Good day all, I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has been watered down now). If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat. Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to save the region. I will like the community to see this as “option 1”. Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to carry out its duties? If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members. If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the financial breakdown. That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive. On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> wrote: Hello community I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate sentiments. Let me try this again: In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses. Regards Paul ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> wrote ---- Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large. The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its inability to meet its financial requirements. I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some time later. (https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-f…) That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come out of litigation. 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shatel contact
by Randy Bush 25 Jul '21

25 Jul '21

apologies to use the list for an operational issue :) anyone with friends/contacts in shatel? many sources in their customer cone are pinging a friend's well-known infrastructure site annoyingly. i wrote to the abuse contact (in american <blush>), and got back an email from RT. i asked my son-in-law to translate and he laughed, it's farsi, not arabic <reblush>. google translate says it is a pretty useless "if you have an account maybe we can help," and of course i do not have an account. any help appreciated. thanks. randy

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Interim RIPE NCC Services WG Session on Cloud Strategy
by Felipe Victolla Silveira 22 Jul '21

22 Jul '21

Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC Services WG will be holding an interim session on our cloud strategy on 28 July at 16:00 (UTC+2). If you would like to participate, you can find the details for this session here: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2021-July/003446.ht… <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2021-July/003446.ht…> At this session we will give an update on our current thinking and hear more from the RIPE community* to see if we can find a path towards rough consensus. We will publish an initial draft strategy shortly after the WG session and continue the discussion from there. Our strategy will also include some principles for how we will engage with the community around our core services and we will discuss this in the session as well. Kind regards, Felipe Silveira Chief Operations Officer RIPE NCC *The beginning of this discussion in the RIPE NCC Services WG can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2021-June/003408.ht… <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2021-June/003408.ht…>

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Three new ripe-documents published under RIPE Governance Category
by Mirjam Kuehne 20 Jul '21

20 Jul '21

Dear colleagues, As mentioned in my recent update on RIPE Labs, the following three documents are now available in the RIPE Document Store: A Guide for New RIPE Working Group Chairs (ripe-765) https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-765 Mailing List Guidelines for RIPE Working Group Chairs (ripe-764) https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-764 RIPE Meeting Programme Committee: Appointment, Roles and Responsibilities (ripe-763) https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-763 You can find other documents related to RIPE Governance here: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-documents/ripe-governance Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne

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Open House today : RIPE Community Resilience and Wellbeing
by Erik Bais 14 Jul '21

14 Jul '21

Hi, This is a short reminder that today is the Open House online meeting for the RIPE Community Resilience and Wellbeing session that we did during the RIPE82 plenary. If you like to join, please make sure you register: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house Regards, Erik Bais

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