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16 Apr '98

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16 Apr '98

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RIPE 30 in Stockholm - Reminder
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 14 Apr '98

14 Apr '98

Dear Colleagues, We would like to remind you that the registration for RIPE 30 in Stockholm: 18, 19 and 20 May 1998, has been opened. For more information please look at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/ripe/mtg.html The social event will take place on a boat this time: "The m/s Gustafsberg VII" Departure Tuesday 19th May from Nybrokajen (near SAS Radisson Strand Hotel) at 18:30. Return to Nybrokajen at 23:30. PLEASE NOTE: we will stop registering people for the dinner on *Monday 11 May* If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <meeting(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Naomi de Bruyn RIPE Meeting Registrations ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- %START Do not change the following field %MTG [ ripe30 ] Please add a value in the 'box' area marked between the square brackets (i.e. "[" and "]" s). If values are already supplied between the brackets, please delete all values except one. PART 1 - Registration Note this is what will be used for your badge and for the attendee list, so please take care to fill it in correctly. 1) Your name Please enter your first name. First name first, surname last. e.g. John , Mary B. %NAME [ ] Please enter your surname next e.g. Doe %SURNAME [ ] 2) Your Organisation/Institution %ORG [ ] 3) The NCC Reg-id of your Organisation %REGID [ ] (Only if you represent a Local Internet Registry) 4) Your e-mail address %EMAIL [ ] 5) Country code of organisation e.g. IT FR DE %CTRY [ ] PART 2 - Payment of Registration Fees WARNING!! - Note that sending your credit card information via e-mail is in principle not secure. The payment information will be transmitted in clear via e-mail. If you do not want to do this, please leave your credit card details blank in this form, and send them to us by fax. Please do not forget to mention your name and organisation on the fax, so there will be no risk in us getting confused. Our fax number is: +31 20 535 44 45 1) Method of payment. Payment in advance is greatly preferred. (please delete all choices except one) %PMETH [in advance; credit card at meeting; credit card at meeting; cash ] 2) Type of credit card (please delete all choices except one) %CTYPE [ VISA / American Express / Mastercard ] 3) Card number %CCNUM [ ] 4) Expiry date %CCDATE [ ] 5) Card holders name %CCNAME [ ] 6) Card holders address %CCADDR [ ] 7) Amount to be paid %AMT [RIPE Meeting only; ECU 100 RIPE Meeting plus RIPE dinner; ECU 165 ] Your payment cannot be processed after May 8th, 1998 with this form. You are welcome to send in your personal data with this form to register, but the payment can only be made at the meeting itself on May 18th, 1998 %END

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Hostcount for March 1998
by Lee Wilmot 06 Apr '98

06 Apr '98

Dear All, here is the hostcount for March 1998. I apologise for the delay caused by technical problems experienced by some of the larger TLD's. The table shows an increase since last month of over 200,000 (or 3.4%) to a total of approximately 6,320,000 hosts in the DNS in Europe and surrounding areas. de shows the highest increase for March with more than 70,000 hosts more than in February. The hostcount can also be found under ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount. The graphical version of the hostcount can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/RIPE-Hostcount-{Mo,Qu}.eps The translation of the country codes can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes All this data can also be found at http://www.ripe.net/statistics/hostcount.html If you are interested in the historic hostcount data, bunyip Information Services has hosted the complete set of data since 1994 under ftp://ftp.bunyip.com/pub/netstats/ripe I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by counting hosts locally: at Gerhard Winkler <Gerhard.Winkler(a)univie.ac.at> be DNS-BE Registration Office <tech(a)dns.de> ch Marcel Schneider <schneider(a)switch.ch> cz Jiri Orsag <Jiri.Orsag(a)eunet.cz> de Peter Koch <pk(a)TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> dk Robert Martin-Legene <robert(a)dknet.dk> es Jose Sanchez-Seco <jose.sanchez(a)rediris.es> fr Annie Renard <Annie.Renard(a)inria.fr> gr Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis(a)forthnet.gr> ie Mike Norris <mnorris(a)heanet.ie> il Sason Levi <sason(a)NetVision.net.il> it Maurizio Martinelli <M.Martinelli(a)cnuce.cnr.it> Daniele Vannozzi <D.Vannozzi(a)cnuce.cnr.it> li Marcel Schneider <schneider(a)switch.ch> no Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> pl Mirek Luc <mirek(a)nask.pl> pt Armando Domingues <armando(a)rccn.net> ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov <adbr(a)ripn.net> sm Maurizio Martinelli <M.Martinelli(a)cnuce.cnr.it> Daniele Vannozzi <D.Vannozzi(a)cnuce.cnr.it> tr Yener Yigit <yener(a)knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr> uk Robert Stone <robert(a)nosc.ja.net> Kevin Hoadley <K.Hoadley(a)nosc.ja.net> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Lee Wilmot RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Fri Feb 27 1998 This Count : Mon Apr 6 1998 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================== al 11 142 4 138 + 13 am 76 746 118 628 + 81 at 16275 160959 30262 130697 + 3726 az 27 419 13 406 - 16 ba 26 446 18 428 + 44 be 8988 191131 16019 175112 + 2063 bg 460 8350 459 7891 + 313 by 71 868 85 783 + 189 ch 28633 230796 29349 201447 + 2813 cy 491 4414 99 4315 + 85 cz 10208 66689 5938 60751 + 692 de 103355 1446033 210108 1235925 + 73441 dk 43820 213378 25142 188236 + 8497 dz 2 49 0 49 + 4 ee 1547 19564 1078 18486 + 411 eg 487 2932 153 2779 + 120 es 8855 218902 6931 211971 + 9111 fi 6813 431801 11325 420476 + 7835 fo 100 318 10 308 + 5 fr 19563 455927 38010 417917 + 18153 gb 2 42 0 42 0 ge 34 537 32 505 + 59 gr 2196 27094 2096 24998 - 7552 hr 1338 10468 1490 8978 - 259 hu 4240 83152 7372 75780 + 2473 ie 4621 48031 5170 42861 + 881 il 5423 109648 11521 98127 + 2976 is 1052 20840 604 20236 + 480 it 29399 315817 38907 276910 + 8599 li 458 1497 474 1023 + 58 lt 622 4601 332 4269 - 25 lu 1073 6295 973 5322 + 321 lv 584 9849 1530 8319 + 312 ma 123 1586 162 1424 + 100 md 37 339 58 281 + 21 mk 47 573 44 529 + 32 mt 182 1543 205 1338 + 302 nl 31439 477158 46102 431056 + 21580 no 16843 322675 13860 308815 + 3711 pl 11269 117164 14223 102941 + 4928 pt 5409 47486 3720 43766 + 630 ro 1224 16578 1263 15315 + 995 ru 10484 140467 17323 123144 + 1568 se 25586 378449 22276 356173 + 3526 si 2272 22867 2338 20529 + 751 sk 3289 18476 3106 15370 - 391 sm 31 230 9 221 + 1 su 945 43722 1609 42113 - 138 tn 8 183 88 95 + 2 tr 5016 42566 4180 38386 + 849 ua 995 22944 6070 16874 + 799 uk 94763 1354805 203117 1151688 + 34332 va 2 11 0 11 0 yu 1115 5519 466 5053 - 382 ============================================================== 511929 7107076 785841 6321235 +209119

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NATO Advanced Networking Workshop - REMAINDER
by Kevin Meynell 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

All, Just a reminder that anyone wishing to apply to attend the next NATO Advanced Networking Workshop should submit their application forms by Friday (3 April 1998). Information about the workshop and an application form are available from: http://www.terena.nl/conf/nato-anw98/ The usual apologies to those that receive multiple copies of this message. Regards, Kevin Meynell ---- Application for NATO Advanced Networking Workshop - Promoting High-Speed Networks 18-22 May 1998 Introduction ------------ TERENA is once again organising a NATO Advanced Networking Workshop following the success of previous events in Budapest and Edinburgh. This year's workshop will be held on the 18th to 22nd May 1998 in Kaunas, Lithuania, with a theme of 'Promoting High-Speed Networks'. The workshop is aimed at those who are currently running national networks services, but who will, in the near future, be moving to newer technologies. Content will be practical and technology-oriented, but will also cover the network management and application-level issues that arise with the newer technology. The event will be a single-track workshop with classroom-style lectures complemented by hands-on technical sessions. For more details about the workshop, please see: http://www.terena.nl/conf/nato-anw98/ TERENA is grateful to Bay Networks Inc. for providing equipment and personnel that make this workshop possible. ------8<------8<------8<------ cut here ------8<------8<------8<------ APPLICATION =========== Please complete *all* sections as fully as possible and return to: nato-anw98(a)terena.nl Any additional information should be appended in plain text format. 1. Personal data ---------------- FAMILY NAME: First Name: Sex[1]: Male / Female (please delete) Date-of-birth: Employer: Business Address: Country[2]: Business Telephone: Business Fax: E-mail: 2. Administration ----------------- a) Accommodation - Please note that participants will be required to share twin hotel rooms for the duration of the workshop and conference. If you have any objections to this, please let us know the reasons here: b) Travel - Please indicate the approximate cost in US$ of the cheapest method of travel from your place of residence to Kaunas, Lithunia[3]: 3. Description of the candidate's role in National Networking Activities ------------------------------------------------------------------------ a) Please give a brief summary of your educational background: b) Please supply a description of your current employer, position, duties and responsibilities and how they relate to current and future networking activities in your country: c) Please outline details of work you have done with inter-networking, and what you hope to achieve in the future with the help of the knowledge gained at the workshop: d) Upon your return from the workshop, how would you expect to disseminate the knowledge you gain through attendance at the workshop: e) Please give details of any NATO Advanced Networking Workshops you have participated in previously: 4. Please append any additional information in support of your application here, in plain text: -------------------------------- ------8<------8<------8<------ cut here ------8<------8<------8<------ Notes: [1] Please note that participants will be required to share twin hotel rooms for the duration of the workshop and conference. [2] Please note that only residents of NATO Co-operation Partner (CP) countries are eligible to attend this workshop and receive assistance from NATO. Eligible countries are: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russian Federation, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Tajikistan, the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan. NATO countries: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States. [3] Accommodation will be provided for seven nights. Dates of travel should be arranged so that a Saturday night is included (i.e. you should either arrive on Sunday, 17th May and depart on Sunday, 24th May; or alternatively arrive on Saturday, 16th May and depart on Saturday, 23rd May. Please note, should you choose to spend any additional time in Kaunas before travelling home, you must assume any costs incurred.

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by jtsrstock＠yahoo.com 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

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New documents: RIPE-168 v2.0 and RIPE-179
by Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC) 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- Two revised/new documents are available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-168, version 2.0 Title: Internet delay measurements using test-traffic Installing and hosting a test-box Author: Henk Uijterwaal Date: 27 March 1998 Format: PS=2888826, TXT=20069 Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: See also: Short content description ------------------------- In RIPE-158, we presented a proposal to do Internet performance measurements using test traffic generated by test-boxes. This document is intended for ISP's interested in hosting a test-box. It describes the requirements for hosting a test-box at an ISP. It also describes the installation and day-to-day management of such a test-box. After reading this document, one should be able to judge if one can successfully host a test-box at a site. Ref: ripe-179 Title: Test Traffic Measurement project Security document Author: Olaf Kolkman, Henk Uijterwaal Date: 27 March 1998 Format: PS=401262 TXT=9748 Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: See also: Short content description ------------------------- This document is part of a series that describes the design, setup and implementation of the Test-Traffic project at the RIPE-NCC. Here we will discuss the security issues that are relevant to the test-traffic measurement program. This is a dynamic document, which will be updated when need arrises. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- The RIPE document store is available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-168.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-179.ps ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-168.txt plain text version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-179.txt You can also access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW, at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/ Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to <mail-server(a)ripe.net> with "send HELP" in the body text. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(a)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.535-4414, Fax -4445 1016 AB Amsterdam Home: +31.20.4195305 The Netherlands Pager: +6.57626855 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ %DCL-E-NOCFFE, unable to locate coffee - keyboard input suspended.

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RIPE 30 Meeting Announcement
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Dear Colleagues, [Apologies for duplicate mails] It is our pleasure to announce the 30th RIPE meeting, which will take place in Stockholm, Sweden, on 18th, 19th & 20th of May 1998. The meeting will be held at the 'Royal Institute of Technology' (KTH). Please note the mentioned dates are Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. An exception to the Wed-Fri tradition we were forced to make because of Ascension on 21st May. You can register at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/ripe/mtg.html Further details of the venue, its address and directions of how to get there can also be found on this page. The registration fee of 100 ECU includes refreshments and lunch but doesn't include the RIPE dinner. The admission charge including the RIPE dinner event is 165 ECU. Pre-payment facilities will close on May 8th. Registration forms will be accepted after this date, however in that case payment will not be processed and has to take place on site. If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <meeting(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Naomi de Bruyn RIPE Meeting Registrations ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- %START Do not change the following field %MTG [ ripe30 ] Please add a value in the 'box' area marked between the square brackets (i.e. "[" and "]" s). If values are already supplied between the brackets, please delete all values except one. PART 1 - Registration Note this is what will be used for your badge and for the attendee list, so please take care to fill it in correctly. 1) Your name Please enter your first name. First name first, surname last. e.g. John , Mary B. %NAME [ ] Please enter your surname next e.g. Doe %SURNAME [ ] 2) Your Organisation/Institution %ORG [ ] 3) The NCC Reg-id of your Organisation %REGID [ ] (Only if you represent a Local Internet Registry) 4) Your e-mail address %EMAIL [ ] 5) Country code of organisation e.g. IT FR DE %CTRY [ ] PART 2 - Payment of Registration Fees WARNING!! - Note that sending your credit card information via e-mail is in principle not secure. The payment information will be transmitted in clear via e-mail. If you do not want to do this, please leave your credit card details blank in this form, and send them to us by fax. Please do not forget to mention your name and organisation on the fax, so there will be no risk in us getting confused. Our fax number is: +31 20 535 44 45 1) Method of payment. Payment in advance is greatly preferred. (please delete all choices except one) %PMETH [in advance; credit card at meeting; credit card at meeting; cash ] 2) Type of credit card (please delete all choices except one) %CTYPE [ VISA / American Express / Mastercard ] 3) Card number %CCNUM [ ] 4) Expiry date %CCDATE [ ] 5) Card holders name %CCNAME [ ] 6) Card holders address %CCADDR [ ] 7) Amount to be paid %AMT [RIPE Meeting only; ECU 100 RIPE Meeting plus RIPE dinner; ECU 165 ] Your payment cannot be processed after May 8th, 1998 with this form. You are welcome to send in your personal data with this form to register, but the payment can only be made at the meeting itself on May 18th, 1998 %END ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Plenary Minutes RIPE 29
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

RIPE 29 Amsterdam, 28 - 30 January 1998 Plenary Session RIPE 29 Meeting Plenary Session Minutes - DRAFT Chair: Rob Blokzijl Scribes: Julia Edwards, Paula Caslav 1. Opening: Rob Blokzijl opened the plenary session of the 29th RIPE meeting. 2. Agenda This is the preliminary agenda: 1. Opening 2. Agenda 3. From the RIPE Chair 4. Minutes RIPE 28 5. Action items RIPE 28 6. RIPE NCC Association 7. Report from the RIPE NC 8. Restructuring the IANA 9. IPv6 Addressing Policy 10. Secure DNS/BIND 11. Mapping the Internet 12. DB Security Task Force report 13. Reports from the working groups 14. Next RIPE meetings 15. AOB The agenda was agreed upon. 3. From the RIPE Chair Comments from Rob Blokzijl - About Internet drafts RE: IPV6. Daniel and Rob drafted docs w/o consultation with IPv6 wg due to time constraints. Chairs of wg's should keep abreast of what's current. 4. Minutes RIPE 28 No comments/additions. 5. Action items RIPE 28 Actions - Most of the items belong in the WG's instead of overall. Result - No outstanding items that couldn't be dealt with in the WG's. 6. RIPE NCC Association (RNA) First of January first day of RNA. Report from Daniel Karrenberg regarding the RNA, the executive board, etc.. 7. Report from the RIPE NCC (Daniel Karrenberg) Quality Assurance Report (John Crain) (Discussion/questions about auditing) Question (Kurt Kaiser) Does the audit include address space allocated by the InterNIC before the RIPE NCC existed? NO, but addresses allocated by the RIPE NCC earlier can also be audited. In this cases the policies in place then are taken into account. Swipnet - will you have some auditing action when registries change sizes. (I.E. from larger to medium or medium to smaller) There are plans to put down procedures for old assignments. Only reason this could be done is if space becomes a problem or the LIR's bring up concerns of fairness. (Comment) Problems with with PGP, (not possible to use or distribute in France) However, Carol Orange assures that it'll still be possible to submit updates to the database, just not by using PGP authentication. New service agreements had to be signed for new RIPE NCC Association. The RIPE NCC is still processing them. The majority of them has been returned to us. 8. Restructuring the IANA (Paul Ridley) (See presentation IANA Update) Discussion (Wilfried Woeber - We have core activities, but do we have any insight about industry involvement) Why separate the IP and domain registration? Daniel Karrenberg - Different constituencies. The constituency of RIPE NCC is the ISP, but for domain registration is the TLD registrars. Keep the level of politics under control by staying out of Naming. Paul Ridley - if they are separate they can be more focused. No problem with IP activities taking resources from naming. Funding? funding for IANA from US will stop on Oct 98. IANA still holds funds given by APNIC and RIPE NCC. Regional registries have budgets to pay. Mike Norris expressed concerns that the LIR's could be losing something in the separation of these two bodies. (ir's and ntld's) 9. IPv6 Addressing Policy Daniel Karrenberg: 2 drafts were proposed by the IPNG WG of the IETF. They were due to become an RFC when the RIPE NCCs registration services pointed out that the address format described in one of them was very limited and would be enough for all LIRs. The second draft proposed allocation guidelines for these addresses. It was felt that the IETF is not the right place to set address allocation guidelines. This has traditionally and successfully been done by the registries together with the IANA. It would be more appropriate if the IETF would submit a document with engineering considerations for the proposed address formats and the allocation of them. A new version of the draft describing the address format has now been submitted by the IESG. A number of bits are now reserved for possible extension of the addresses. The draft can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipngwg-unicast-aggr-03.txt Discussion (Thomas Trede) Is it the duty of IPv6 wg to scan documents regarding allocation policies. At RIPE 20 it was agreed that it not be the wg. Daniel Karrenberg: it is as much part of the WG as the RIPE NCC. Rob: The RIPE NCC and the RIPE WG need to keep contact with each other. Thomas: Should the WG be responsible for keeping track of IETF activities? If the RIPE NCC has questions about IPV6 the WG is the place to pose questions. Community should be grateful to the RIPE NCC and Rob for bringing up objection to drafts since everyone else missed it. 10. Secure DNS/BIND (Carl Malamud) www.isc.org History - Chairman of Internet software consortium. Came in to be chairman and make it a commercial operation. The consortium also produces INN and is working to move Kerberos from beta. They have also worked on Sendmail. Consortium started by Paul Vixie. Funding is by providing software support functions to companies. Secure DNS/BIND Secure DNS - Based upon RSA, to allow for authenticated zone transfers and queries. John Gilmore went to RSA and obtained royalty free perpetual license for DNS authentication purposes. Which allows for export. In the first quarter the first pieces will start showing. By the end of 98 more will be out. Reason for announcement? Strong implication for operation of ISPs and TLDs in use of DNS. It will allow for general purpose key lookup. This will allow for such things as PGP key lookups. Unsecure DNS allows for spamming, spoofing, etc.., this may help stop this. (discussion) Wilfried Woeber - appreciates input, and says thank you for allowing input. Are there figures of percentage of DNS to be secured? 5 to 10% should be able to be secured in the next 12 months. (Question) - Could you perhaps provide comments on problems? If you're not running full version of BIND, then that's the first step. Also, it's better to see some signatures than none at all. If you are signing for your clients, then how much will that mean? So, if the RIPE NCC signs, then this will mean that an object that is submitted will identify. Daniel Karrenberg- What can be expected from RNA is deploying procs for key management. >From history, most of deployment is educating users. Public key encryption, how do you secure your keys? etc... this does not have to be exclusively for DNS, can help in other areas. (discussion) Raza Rizvi - What about ISP customers not using BIND? RSA will extend copyright to other DNS protocol implementations. If you apply to RSA, they will only commit within the next three years for a perpetual license. Does the offer extend to commercial DNS protocol implementations? yes. The most important point, don't wait forever to start looking and implementing security. 11. Mapping the Internet (Carl Malamud) Multi Casting, non profit organization. Talked at RIPE in 92 in PRAGUE about radio. Reset-up multi casting in Amsterdam. This was the right place because of new media artists concentration, and infrastructure. This project is to basically map Internet. How do you map across protocols? how do you construct topological maps? While web is beautiful, visualizing has use for those in the business. So, the question is, what organization has what servers running? With a topology map, you get a picture of this. This is to be a 3 to 5 year project. Structure - coordinating project. RIPE NCC is providing support with an office at Nikhef, and by helping to obtain VISAs. But, they are not providing financial support. This project will return again in a BoF. Other supporters, Sun Labs, and a Japanese consortium, that includes members like Cisco. Right now very low level RIPE support, only admin support. CERT question - Data points that need to be collected. There's going to be a certain amount of traffic doing that collection of information. For every packet taken to search for info, there's another packet created, responding. Yes it has Bandwidth consequences. When I looked for a machine.. I asked for something like 10gigs RAM and 500 gigs into terrabytes disk. Yes, Sun said, it's possible. 12. Database Security Task Force Report (Joachim Schmitz) Meetings * Washington IETF * prior to this RIPE meetings Recent Developments * IETF WGs IDR & RPS Security concerns regarding routing, e.g. hole punching triggered extensive discussion - -> reference needed - -> IRR currently minor security measures - -> increase security - -> populate database - -> educate users - -> change of the IRR - -> more responsibilities with registries Topics * coordination with other RRs * role of the IRR presentations by Gerald Winters, Merit definition for the IRR * database security trust model in development * security suggestions by Curtis Villamizar, ANS * PGP deal: Presentation by Carol Orange, RIPE NCC (discussion) Wilfried Woeber commented that we need a "known" person to acquire a license, but the license will be granted to the organisation, so if the original person leaves or changes position it's no problem. (question) Francis Dupont: Will PGP be added to the authentication mechanisms? Carol Orange: yes, there will then be 4 mechanisms, but no-one will be forced to use PGP or any other strong authentication. (question) Has there been progress in having a referral mechanism in the database? Carol Orange: There has been progress in definition but not in implementation. The RIPE NCC has a lack of programmers, but it's high on the priority list. Wilfried Woeber: We're also thinking of offering checksumming and other security measures, not just authorisation. We're also discussing authentication- who has access to objects, identification, etc.. But we have to have something available now. 13. Reports from the WGs Routing Working Group: Chair- Joachim Schmitz Current Developments * RIPE document on Route Flap Damping -> last call * RPSL -> implementation delayed -> RPSL draft has moved to proposed standard -> several developments around it * Security Issues -> data integrity -> prevention of accidental/malicious misconfiguration -> prevention of improper use of address space Presentations * IRR Authorisation (Carol Orange) Scheme for ISPs which routes to trust Proposal for IRR definition: "The IRR is a place that reflects what is announced on the Internet and what is permitted to be announced" * Using Internet Routing Announcements to identify incorrect IRR data (Gerald Winters) -> PAIR http://www.rsng.net/pair analysis tools -> Examples of (mis)use of the IRR -> Definition of the IRR? Role of the IRR? Actions * 29.R1 Gerald Winters, Carol Orange, Joachim Schimtz Definition of the IRR and an AUP * 29.R2 RIPE NCC, Carol Orange Implementation of notification and aut-num authorisation * 29.R3 RIPE NCC, Carol Orange Implementation of PGP 14. Next RIPE meetings Stockholm, Sweden May 18-20 Edinburgh, UK September 23-25 Amsterdam, Netherlands January (no dates set yet) ---------------------------------------------- DNS Working Group: Chair- Ruediger Volk (discussion) There was further discussion of "jspnrmptgsbssdir" a Microsoft created DNS confusion. The name "jspnrmptgsbssdir" is queried regularly from a Windows NT server or workstation running the Windows NT Remote Access Service. Try creating an entry for jspnrmptgsbssdir in your zone file. ---------------------------------------------- Netnews Working Group: Chair- Felix Kugler Report of the RIPE29 Netnews WG meeting 37 attendees chair: Felix Kugler scribe: Leigh Porter 1. Review of outstanding actions: A26.N3 Upgrade servers to Newsbone standards A27.N2 Newsbone deployment There has been some progress with both actions. However, the WG suggest to drop them from the list as they are ongoing items per definitionem. A27.N1 Tool Support for non-INN servers There have been improvements, though not by WG members. This action will be carried forward. 2. A review of the Netnews-WG As this WG goes into its 3rd year soon, a short review about the activities was given. The WG now focuses aroung three working areas: - feed topology issues - server tuning issues - reliability & QOS The WG's conception is that it is in no position to really coordinate News feeds in Europe. Rather it tries to help coordination efforts by providing information about traffic streams, tools to visualize and monitor traffic, and a discussion forum. The charter has to be updated to reflect this change. A29.N1 Felix Kugler to update charter on WG WWW server The Newsbone document shall be stripped from unnecessary requirements which might have prevented some ISPs from joining. A29.N2 Felix Kugler to update Newsbone document and related WWW pages 3. Presentations and proposals for new projects - Group list maintenance (Gerhard Winkler): Use synchronisation with refernce servers where conventional group maintenance using control messages is not sufficient. A29.N3 WG to provide information about maintainers and reference servers A29.N4 Gerhard Winkler to collect data and edit info page - Article loss measurements (Gerhard Winkler) Proposal to measure article loss with test articles. Will not be pursued, use endusers as indicators instead ! - News admins guide - Building and running a news service (Leigh Porter) Do's and don'ts for qunning backbone News servers. A29.N5 Leigh Porter to write a "News admins guide" - Spam on Usenet (Felix Kugler) Short introduction to Spam in Usenet, differences to email spamming, countermeasures... ---------------------------------------------- Database Working Group: Chair- Wilfried Woeber ---------------------------------------------- Local IR Working Group: Chair- Mike Norris http://www.ripe.net/wg/lir/r29-summary.html ---------------------------------------------- Spam BoF: Chair- John Martin, presentation Roderik Muit (discussion) Antonio-Blasco Bonito noted that in Italy new domains have to sign a nettiquette agreement, this might be something to consider for the Spam working group. ---------------------------------------------- TLD Working Group: chair- Niall O'Reilly (discussion) It was noted that the RIPE NCC will only bootstrap the new RIPE CENTR and the organisation will become independent as soon as possible if feasible. The time frame for RIPE NCC involvement is about 1 year. http://www.ripe.net/wg/tld/summary-29.html ---------------------------------------------- EIX Working Group: chair- Keith Mitchell ---------------------------------------------- MBONE Working Group: chair- Kurt Kayser http://www.ripe.net/wg/mbone/summary-29.html ---------------------------------------------- IPv6 Working Group: chair- Thomas Trede ---------------------------------------------- 15. AOB There was no other business 16. Closing Rob thanked the RIPE NCC for doing a great job in organising this meeting, and thanked everybody for coming.

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