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RIPE 63: Daily Meeting Report - Thursday
by RIPE Meeting 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, A short summary of Thursday's events at RIPE 63 can be found below. The full Daily Meeting Report, including photos, links to presentations, webcasts and further information, can be found at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/report/thursday/ Address Policy Working Group The third AP WG session started on Thursday with discussion on the IPv6 PI/PA unification proposal made by Gert Doering, AP Working Group co-Chair. There was an analysis of special cases, the costs and the "multiple blocks per LIR" scenario that would result from the unification. The RIPE NCC was tasked to look into possible reasons why LIRs would like to be able to request multiple prefixes. More feedback was encouraged on the mailing list. During the Open Policy Hour, the recent RFC 6382, published by the IETF, was presented. Some possible interpretation issues with the ripe-525 policy, "Autonomous System (AS) Number Assignment Policy" were highlighted. The attendees present reached the conclusion that a policy proposal should not be submitted. DNS Working Group The first session of the DNS Session WG had a very diverse set of presentations, ranging from an update by the RIPE NCC, an update on the DANE work in IETF, to DNS configuration management and two different implementations of an authoritative DNS server. The second DNS session started with an interesting presentation about the excessive increased query load on the root name servers that occurred for a brief time this summer, followed by a presentation on "DNSSEC Trigger". There was also an update on the "IDN Variant Issues Project" and an update on the status of the DNSEASY and SSR Meetings. The session ended with a very engaging panel discussion, ranging from the technical to the political implications of blocking or rewriting DNS query results at the registry or ISP level and how that affects operators throughout the world. EIX Working Group The first presentation of the session was an introduction to the local peering scene in Austria, given by Christian Panigl, VIX. There was then an update on EIX activities, which included the new IPv4 policy and switch wishlist. Remco van Mook, Equinix, and Martin Pels, AMS-IX, offered to help with the document. The session continued with a presentation on "Monitoring Platforms for Internet Exchange Points" and "Jumbo Frames in AMS-IX", which prompted many in the audience to voice their opinions. The second EIX WG session began with a presentation on "Extended Communities for Route-Servers and ASN32", followed by "How to Resolve Edge Redundancy for Peering". Next up was Joao Damas, ISC, who talked about the Open Source Routing project he was working on. There were two presentations on problems experienced with Proxy-ARP and discussion focused on why this happened. A Cisco representative said he would bring this feedback back to Cisco. The session ended with on open mic session of lightning updates. RIPE Database Working Group The RIPE NCC shared the latest RIPE Database developments. RIPE NCC staff members, Kaveh Ranjbar and Denis Walker, presented on the action points from the RIPE 62 Meeting, all of which have been completed. The main discussion of the session was about the geolocation service. The RIPE NCC showed a prototype of the service and the WG Chair will present the proposed way forward on the RIPE Database mailing list. The RIPE NCC was also requested to investigate how internationalisation could be made possible and what would need to be done if it is decided to fully serve the data in utf-8. As reported in the Anti-Abuse WG earlier this week, a requirement of an abuse contact i in the RIPE Database will start the PDP in the coming weeks.. This is the result of the Abuse Contact Task Force. An other issue raised was that objects sponsored by an LIR are not shown in the RIPE Database. The mailing list will be used to analyse how to move forward. Cooperation Working Group The RIPE Cooperation Working Group met in the final session of the day, and included a remote presentation from European Commission representative Andrea Glorioso, who emphasised the need for more synchronisation between the RIPE community and the Commission. Chris Buckridge, RIPE NCC, gave an update on the Internet Governance Forum 2011, while Nurani Nimpuno, Netnod, spoke about the work of the United Nations CSTD Working Group on "Improvements to the IGF". MAT Working Group The session started with NIC Brazil reporting on how RIPE TTM data is being used in real time in Brazil. Next there was a presentation on Google's "Measurement Lab (M-Lab)" . After the talk, a number of people asked if Google was considering integrating or sponsoring RIPE Atlas. Wolfgang Nagele, RIPE NCC, then presented on "PCAP Analysis with HADOOP". The session concluded with two presentations by the RIPE NCC, one of which updated the audience on the recent developments in the RIPE NCC's measurements activities. The other announced the introduction of user defined measurements for RIPE Atlas. David Freedman, Claranet, then asked the audience how the reachability of a prefix could be measured so that people can build filters properly and proposed an experiment. Interest was expressed and he said he would formulate a more solid proposal. IPv6 Privacy BoF An IPv6 Privacy BoF was held in the Park Congress I room following the last working group sessions of the day. The German NGO Arbeitskreis Vorratsdatenspeicherung’s (Working Group on Data Retention) position on how user privacy should be supported by ISPs and software/hardware vendors was discussed as well as how privacy concerns will influence ISPs’ IPv6 assignment practices.

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RIPE 63 Daily Meeting Report - Wednesday
by RIPE Meeting 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, A short summary of Wednesday's events at RIPE 63 can be found below. The full Daily Meeting Report, including photos, links to presentations, webcasts and further information, can be found at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/report/wednesday/ Address Policy Working Group Emilio Madaio, RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer, gave on overview of "Current Policy Topics" and the "Policy Development Office Activities". Alex le Heux, RIPE NCC, continued with "Feedback from RIPE NCC Registration Services", showing how the implementation can take from days to years. The APWG co-Chairs announced their intention to declare consensus on proposal 2011-02, "Removal of multihomed requirement for IPv6 PI". 2011-04, "Extension of the Minimum Size for IPv6 Initial Allocation" and 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space" were presented and discussed. Dave Wilson, HEAnet, gave an overview "On Inter-RIR Transfers" and asked for discussion on whether we need an inter-RIR transfer policy. The RIPE NCC was requested to evaluate the current transfer policy. Rob Blokzijl then introduced his initiative for the "IPv4 Maintenance Policy" document. Shane Kerr, ISC, explained the conclusions from yesterday's IPv6 WG session about IPv6 renumbering. The last item on the agenda was a review of the withdrawn policy 2008-08, "Initial Certification Policy in the RIPE NCC Service Region". ENUM Working Group The ENUM WG started with Wolfgang Nagele, RIPE NCC, giving an update of the RIPE NCC's ENUM service. Patrik Faltstrom, Cisco, gave a short presentation about User ENUM in Sweden. The third presenter, Lino Santos, reported about the progress made with ENUM in Portugal. Most of the WG session was covered by an interesting panel discussion with ENUM experts from various countries and a speaker from from TERENA. The discussion focused around why ENUM is not so successful and if ENUM itself is a service or if it is an underlying technology on which services can be based. An action was assigned to contact all ENUM operators between now and RIPE 64. Routing Working Group Geoff Huston, APNIC, presented the mystery of "The Flat World of BGP" and Thomas Mangin, EXA Networks Ltd., presented on exaBGP and asked for feedback. Randy Bush, IIJ, presented the "Impact of the Tohoku Earthquake on Japanese ISPs" and concluded this was a boring event; the Internet worked around failures. He also presented on the CPU load of BGPSEC. Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE NCC, asked for input on the usefulness of RIS routing beacons. The responses were that they were useful. There was an action on the RIPE NCC to publish the IPv6 Routing Recommendations document. RIPE NCC Services Working Group The RIPE NCC Services Working Group was the final session of the day. Following an introduction to the newly composed Senior Management team by Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC Managing Director, there was an update from the RIPE NCC Senior Managers on the organisation's various activities, priorities and developments and the results of the RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011. There were presentations on the RIPE NCC's preparation for the distribution of the last remaining IPv4 address space, and on the progress of the RIPE NCC's project on Contractual Relationship Requirements for End Users. Finally, Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE NCC Chief Scientist, reported on the development and future plans for RIPE Atlas. PGP Key-Signing Party The PGP Key-Signing Party has been a regular feature at the last few RIPE Meetings, and RIPE 63 was no exception. While cryptography ensures the secrecy of communication, it is important to establish a “web of trust” so that the authenticity of the involved parties is also known with a high degree of confidence. The RIPE Meeting presents an ideal opportunity for attendees to meet, exchange, verify and sign each others' public keys. Yesterday’s Key-Signing Party was attended by 10-15 people and will be continued at future RIPE meetings.

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Share Your Views - Review of ICANN ASO
by Axel Pawlik 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

Dear colleagues, ITEMS International (Paris) is conducting an independent review of the ICANN Address Supporting Organisation (ASO). It is very important for reviewers to gather the views and opinions of the Regional Internet Registry (RIR) communities, particularly concerning Global Policies. The RIPE community is strongly urged to share their views on this short questionnaire: www.items.fr/aso.php Kind regards, Axel Pawlik RIPE NCC Managing Director

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RIPE 63 Daily Meeting Report - Tuesday
by RIPE Meeting 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, A short summary of Tuesday's events at RIPE 63 can be found below. The full Daily Meeting Report, including photos, links to presentations, webcasts and further information, can be found at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/report/tuesday/ Plenary Day two of RIPE 63 began with a busy Plenary session, with talks on "DDoS Attack Trends Through 2009-2011", the "Reputation of Networks – RIPE Region" and "Operational Experiences in Deploying 100 GbE". The RIPE NCC talked about "IPv4 and IPv6 assignments for RIPE NCC Routing Information Service" and "Resource Request for Business Operations". There were several comments from the audience about this and it was left to the community to decide the outcome during the Closing Plenary on Friday. The second Plenary session continued the focus on technical issues, starting with a presentation on transit costs, followed by BGP policy violations in the data-plane, and an analysis of IPv6 latencies. A study of measured trends in IPv6 adoption looked primarily at trends seen around and following World IPv6 Day. The third Plenary session saw RIPE NCC's Managing Director, Axel Pawlik, share the RIPE NCC's plan for contacting legacy space holders in the RIPE NCC service region. The presentation prompted a lot of participation from the audience, many of whom were legacy space holders themselves. Axel encouraged legacy space holders, even those with particularly specific situations, to contact the RIPE NCC. RIPE Chair, Rob Blokzijl, supported the efforts to "blow off the dust" of legacy address space. IPv6 remains a hot topic at RIPE Meetings, with a talk on "IPv6 Deployment Beauty Pageant" and a four-person panel discussing "CPE and End-User IPv6". Audience comments indicated that having hardware providers speaking about IPv6 deployment was an encouraging indication that things were moving in the right direction. Next, several interesting Lightning Talks were held and David Kessens, reported from a draft document currently reviewed by the IETF: IANA Reserved IPv4 prefixes for shared CGN space and urged everyone to look at the draft and participate in the discussion. At the end of the session, Marco Hogewoning, WG co-Chair, introduced 'speed dating' between those who have deployed IPv6 and those busy deploying it. IPv6 Working Group Shane Kerr, ISC, gave a presentation on renumbering for enterprise networks and the IETF Working Group that has been established to look at this issue, seeking operator feedback on their work. The update to RIPE Document, ripe-501, "Requirements for IPv6 in ICT Equipment", which will conclude its Last Call phase next week, was discussed. Constanze Bürger delivered an update on the German government's roll-out of a federal IPv6 network, which led to some discussion and Timo Hilbrink provided an update on the IPv6 deployment of Dutch ISP XS4ALL. Anti-Abuse Working Group There was a good mix of the technical, the practical and the policy at the Anti-Abuse Working Group session. Joao Damas, ISC, gave an interesting presentation on passive DNS. Laura Cobley, Customer Services Manager at the RIPE NCC, spoke about how to report abuse to the RIPE NCC. She received many helpful suggestions on how the process should work. Michele Neylon, Blacknight, talked about how hosting companies deal with abuse. The session ended with lengthy discussion on interactions with governments and legal enforcement agencies.

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RIPE 63 Daily Meeting Report - Monday
by RIPE Meeting 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE 63 Meeting opened today. A short summary of Monday's events can be found below. The full Daily Meeting Report, including photos, links to presentations and further information, can be found at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/report/ RIPE 63 Plenary The RIPE 63 Meeting began Monday afternoon with welcome addresses from Rob Blokzijl, RIPE Chair, and the RIPE Meeting hosts, Christian Panigl, UniVie/ACOnet/VIX, and Robert Schiscka, nic.at. Desiree Miloshevic, of the Oxford Internet Institute, then gave an introduction to the results of the recent RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey The Plenary continued with a detailed presentation by Emile Aben, RIPE NCC, on “World IPv6 Day - What Did We Learn?”. The presentation showed statistics from the day itself and concluded that it was a positive experience. Brian Nisbet, HEAnet, with the first technical presentation of the week, had the attendees laughing out loud at his amusing account of HEAnet’s experience with “Cisco CRS-1 & IOS-XR”. The second Plenary session began with an emotive speech from Daniel Karrenberg, Chief Scientist RIPE NCC, entitled "Almost 20 Years of RIPE NCC: A Personal View on Current Challenges". It was followed by a high-level panel discussion on resource certification (RPKI). The discussion saw lengthy debate on the technical and potential regulatory issues surrounding certification. RPKI Workshop Earlier in the day, a RPKI workshop was held. Around 80 people participated in the event, during which they had the chance to make use all of the available open source tools and configure routers to base routing decisions on RPKI data. BoF: RIPEstat Demo The RIPEstat demo took place during Monday’s BoF session. The demo gave an overview of the purpose of RIPEstat, explained some features related to the application’s views, mentioned the new iPhone/iPad version that was released yesterday and outlined upcoming features. More information about RIPEstat and the demos can be found online at: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kistel/ripestat Database Tricks and Tips Around 35 people attended the "Database Tricks and Tips" session, run by the RIPE NCC, on Monday morning. The session introduced attendees to the most important objects in the RIPE Database, showed simple ways to get precise information and explained the best methods for updating the database. There was also some discussion of geolocation. Abuse Contact Management Task Force The Abuse Contact Management Task Force held their fourth meeting on Monday morning. The goal of the task force is to propose a solution for abuse contact provision by members. The task force will report back to the Anti Abuse Working Group on Tuesday afternoon. The task force also came up with a policy proposal outline that will be submitted in the coming weeks.

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RIPE Programme Committee
by Joao Damas 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

Dear Colleagues During RIPE 63, one of the community selected seats on the RIPE Programme Committee (PC) will become available. We are looking for members of the community to volunteer themselves for this vacant seat. The election process --------------------- - During the Opening Plenary, the PC will give an overview of the composition of the PC and the rotation scheme. The nomination period will open. - Candidates wishing to stand for election to the PC should notify pc(a)ripe.net and send a brief biography to meeting(a)ripe.net by 09:00 local time on Friday. Biographies will be posted to http://ripe63.ripe.net/ - Elections will take place during the Closing Plenary on Friday. Only those present in the room will be able to vote. The candidate with the most votes will be elected onto the PC. For more information about the PC, its composition and role, and the appointment of committee members, please see the following pages: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/pc http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/pc/composition-and-roles http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/pc/appointment-of-programme-committee-mem… If you have any questions about this, please email pc(a)ripe.net, or approach any one of us during the RIPE Meeting. Regards, Joao Damas for the RIPE PC

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RIPE 63: Early Bird Discount Ends on Friday
by RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE 63 Meeting is taking place next week from 31 October - 4 November 2011. If you haven't already registered, the regular week ticket costs EUR 400. However, you can get an early-bird discount of EUR 50 if you register before 12:00 UTC on Friday, 28 October. You can register for RIPE 63 online at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/register Online registration closes on Friday, 28 October at 18:00 UTC. After this time, it will still be possible to register but you must do so on site at the meeting venue. If you're unable to attend RIPE 63 in person, remote participation via live webcasts and chat is available. Details of how you can participate will be posted on the website shortly. Stay up-to-date on what is happening at RIPE 63 at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/ We look forward to a great RIPE Meeting in Vienna! Regards, The RIPE Meeting Organisation Team

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RIPE 63: Plenary Agenda Update
by RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Dear colleagues, We look forward to seeing you next week at RIPE 63, taking place from 31 October to 4 November 2011 at the Hilton am Stadtpark in Vienna. ======================= More details posted online ======================= The RIPE 63 Plenary agenda: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/plenary The RIPE Working Group draft agendas: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/agendas/ Daily social events: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/social-events/ See you in Vienna! Kind regards, The RIPE Meeting Team RIPE NCC

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ISP routing policies survey
by Sharon Goldberg 17 Oct '11

17 Oct '11

Hi all, Some of you may have seen the recent discussion on the NANOG list, about how research on interdomain routing could really benefit from a better understanding of current routing policies. But we researchers need help from you, the operators, to better understand routing policies. So, we created a short survey. Over 70 ops have already taken our survey, and we need your help to collect responses. The survey should take under 5 minutes to complete. Feel free to answer all of our questions, or just a few: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~phillipa/measurement/opsurvey/survey.php We'll keep the survey data anonymous, and use it to improve research on interdomain routing and security. We'll also post aggregated results to relevant mailing lists (here, NANOG, etc). Thanks to those who have already filled in our survey, and we look forward to your responses! Phillipa Gill (U of Toronto), Sharon Goldberg (Boston U) & Michael Schapira (Hebrew University)

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Request for participation - Arbor 2011 Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report.
by Dobbins, Roland 14 Oct '11

14 Oct '11

[Apologies if you've already seen this announcement in other forums.] Request for participation - Arbor 2011 Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report. ----- Folks, We're in the process of collecting survey responses for the 2011 Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report (WWISR); this is the Seventh Edition of the Report, and we'd really be grateful for your participation! This is the only security-focused survey we're aware of which is specifically oriented towards those who design, build, operate, and defend public-facing network infrastructure/applications/services, and provides an opportunity to share your experiences and perspectives with your peers within the operational community, as well as to benefit from their shared experiences and perspectives. The 2011 Infrastructure Security Survey is up and available for your input. You can register and complete the survey via this URL, which will redirect your browser to the survey tool (the survey itself is accessed via http/s): <http://www.arbornetworks.com/survey/ISR2011> Once again, we've added several insightful questions from past participants. Survey collection will end as soon as we've reached the desired number of respondents (ideally, 100+). The survey results will be published in the 2011 Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report during January of 2012. Also, please note that *no* personally- or organizationally-identifiable information will be shared in any manner. The 2010 edition of the Report is available here (registration required): <http://www.arbornetworks.com/report> Thanks in advance! ----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins(a)arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>

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