Hi Daniel, On Oct 24, 2024, at 18:23, Daniel Karrenberg <dfk@karrenberg.net> wrote:
I considered mentioning that the current RIPE chair is both a long time participant in RIPE and a former employee of the RIPE NCC as an example for a number of points made in the draft. In the end I deleted that because I considered the text too long already. If the community wants this mentioned I am happy to add it.
As far as the general subject of RIPE NCC staff participation in RIPE is concerned there is a short paragraph in the text which references ripe-810, the document that describes community consensus about that subject.
I consider this enough for the scope of this draft. In case I am missing your point please suggest some draft text that should go in this draft. I am happy with rough text. We can refine it together.
I think what you say makes sense. I still have some niggling doubts, but I don't think they are because your document doesn't address the nomcom's request; I think it's rather because the nomcom's request didn't address the difficulties I had around the independence question at the time. So I agree that this particular document is probably not the ideal place to try and provide clarity.
The scope of the draft is to describe the status-quo that exists. If your suggestion is to add more specific rules, they should go in a revision of ripe-810 or of ripe-787 which describes the selection process for RIPE Chairs.
I do think it would be a kindness to future nomcoms to explore whether we could get community consensus over the independence question, and I agree an update to ripe-787 would be a sensible way to approach that. Joe