May 2025 - Ripe-list-unmoderated

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by Shikha Thakur 20 May '25

20 May '25

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by Tyler simmons 19 May '25

19 May '25

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Re: Cost..@@
by Shikha Thakur 19 May '25

19 May '25

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19 May '25

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by aaafactory17＠vip.163.com 18 May '25

18 May '25

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【SBI証券・セキュリティ】一時的な口座制限とご利用環境の確認
by 【SBI証券】 18 May '25

18 May '25

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by aaafactory3＠163.vip.com 18 May '25

18 May '25

Dear Sir : I hope you’re doing well! My name is Su, and I’m reaching out from METAL PRODUCTS, a trusted manufacturer of high-quality metal hardware. We specialize in producing a wide range of products, including: ✅ D-rings, O-rings, clasps, and buckles ✅ Fasteners, rivets, screws, and bolts,Screws, bolts, and anchors ✅ stainless steel hardware, brass hardware, zamak hardware ✅ Chains, hooks, snaps, and carabiners ✅ Bag, shoe, and clothing ,Belt,leather hardware ✅ Custom metal components and more! As a direct manufacturer, we provide top-quality products at highly competitive prices. Whether you need standard items or custom designs, our factory has the expertise and capacity to bring your ideas to life. We’d love the opportunity to collaborate with you and provide the perfect solutions for your business. Let us know what you’re looking for, and we’ll be happy to assist! Looking forward to your response. Best regards, Su

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【重要】アカウントセキュリティ強化のお知らせとご確認のお願い
by 松井証券 17 May '25

17 May '25

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【重要】アカウントセキュリティ強化のお知らせとご確認のお願い
by 松井証券 17 May '25

17 May '25

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【通知】松井証券アプリの重要アップデート
by 松井証券 17 May '25

17 May '25

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by anjali rao 17 May '25

17 May '25

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File Numb: 010114731509
by Lisa Chaplin 17 May '25

17 May '25

Are you getting our email? let me know. Sincerely, Lisa Chaplin Medical Recruitment Assistant Royal Hospital Manchester

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ご注意：ご利用継続のための認証確認
by Apple 17 May '25

17 May '25

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Statement on Legal Threats
by Hans Petter Holen 17 May '25

17 May '25

Dear Lu, all, We would like to respond to the statements you have made, here on the RIPE mailing list and at our General Meeting which took place on Wednesday. You commented that a lawsuit “could potentially cost millions”, and that we could "get out of this pretty easily" by allowing Internet number portability. For the record, the lawsuit you have threatened regards our decision not to accept sponsorship from you for the RIPE 90 Meeting. Of course, we disagree with the statements you have made. And we make the following statement in reply. The RIRs play a crucial role in ensuring the uniqueness of Internet number resources, which is essential for ensuring the operation and stability of the Internet. This role requires an authoritative source to prevent conflicts and overlaps in address allocations. In filling this role for our region as the RIPE NCC we make great efforts to maintain robust corporate governance with high levels of transparency. The RIR system has been developed by the technical community over more than three decades, through a process of open, transparent and bottom-up dialogue and policy development. Any significant changes to this system or the way we operate should be worked out through this well-established community process. We would also like to clarify that IP addresses are not property. This is reflected in the RIPE NCC Standard Service Agreement: “10.2 The Member acknowledges and agrees that the registration of Internet Number Resources does not constitute property and the registration of Internet Number Resources in the name of the Member or a third party does not confer upon the Member or the third party any rights of ownership. The Member acknowledges that any Internet Number Resources deregistered by the RIPE NCC may be re-registered to another party according to the RIPE Policies.” Let us be very clear - we stand behind doing the right thing for our members and community. A public statement was made that a legal threat regarding event sponsorship will go away if the RIR system accommodates someone’s personal interests. We believe that this legal threat is made without any solid basis and is intended merely to force the hand of the RIPE NCC in an aggressive manner. We suggest that if you believe the RIRs should implement number resource portability in a way that is not currently allowed by the existing policies, then you should follow the existing and well-established community policy processes that have allowed the RIRs to operate for many years in service to the wishes of their respective communities. Regards, Hans Petter Holen Managing Director, CEO RIPE NCC

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ご利用継続のための認証更新のお願い
by Apple 17 May '25

17 May '25

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Ape Yacht Club community
by BAYC Airdrop Live 16 May '25

16 May '25

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【通知】新サービス開始のお知らせ
by 松井証券 16 May '25

16 May '25

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CONOCE NUESTROS BENEFICIOS EN BANMEDICA
by Andrea Del Carmen Jaramillo Zamorano 16 May '25

16 May '25

Buenos días, Junto con saludar, mi nombre es Andrea Jaramillo, ejecutiva de Banmédica, me contacto con Ud. con el propósito de que conozca las ventajas y beneficios de nuestra compañía. Contamos con excelentes planes de salud preferentes con hasta un 100% de cobertura hospitalaria exclusivo en clínicas de primer nivel. ¿Quieres saber por qué estamos a la vanguardia tiene la mejor cobertura? A diferencia de los planes tradicionales de Isapre que basan su cobertura según las prestaciones contenidas en el arancel del Ministerio de Salud, los planes Banmédica consideran el arancel del Colegio Médico, el cual contiene más prestaciones que el arancel usado tradicionalmente en los planes de salud: * Más de 1000 prestaciones médicas adicionales (ampliando en 30% la cantidad de prestaciones cubiertas por un plan de salud tradicional) * Más de 190 nuevos exámenes de última generación * Acceso a cirugía robótica y radiocirugía Estas prestaciones corresponden en su mayoría a enfoques terapéuticos y procedimientos médicos de avanzada, o tratamientos para problemas de salud raros o complejos, y no están cubiertas por ningún plan de Isapre del mercado. [cid:177ad026-65fd-488b-815d-1e82869db9a3] Que ofrecen nuestros planes de salud que nos diferencia del mercado. * Quimioterapia preferente sin topes. * Traslados preferentes sin topes. * Prótesis y órtesis preferentes sin topes. * Cobertura Internacional. * Prestaciones restringidas sin topes. * Atención y día cama recien nacidos preferentes sin topes. * Materiales e insumos clinicos sin topes. * Urgencia Integral. * Marcos y cristales 70%. * Somos la unica Isapre que cubre 1300 prestaciones sin codificación Fonasa.(estas prestaciones no tienen coberturas en las otras isapres y en fonasa, se pagan como particular). Algunos de nuestros beneficios para nuestros afiliados de Banmedica * Descuentos permanentes en farmacias Salcobrand. Medicamentos Bioequivalentes: 18% de descuento Medicamentos Medipharm: 25% de descuento Resto de los medicamentos: 12% de descuento Vademécum Especial: 25% de descuento Recetario Magistral: 30% de descuento Vitaminas y Minerales Vitamin Life: 20% de descuento Consumo masivo (marcas exclusivas): 10% de descuento Medicamentos genéricos: 20% de descuento. * Si eres nuevo en Banmédica, te entregamos durante 3 meses un 30% de descuento en genéricos, un 25% en bioequivalentes y un 20% en el resto de los medicamentos. * Convenio ópticas Schilling. 15% de descuento en lentes ópticos (armazones y cristales). 15% de descuento en lentes de sol. 12% de descuento en lentes de contacto (marcas propias). * Examenen preventivos costo cero. El Plan Preventivo de Isapre Banmédica (PPI) busca detectar a tiempo enfermedades o condiciones de salud que puedan ser prevenidas, mediante cuestionarios, exámenes de laboratorio y/o de evaluación física. Este plan está disponible gratuitamente para todos los beneficiarios de Banmédica y se compone de cuatro programas: Prevención del Embarazo, Lactantes y Niños, Adultos y Adultos Mayores. Dependiendo de tu edad, te corresponderán distintos exámenes a los que podrás acceder. Conócelos y aprovéchalos. Si está dispuesto (a) a recibir una evaluación, no dude en responder, quedo a su disposición. Nombre: Rut: Edad (de usted y sus cargas): Isapre Actual: Valor Plan: Número de Contacto: Clínicas de preferencia: [cid:f480a087-f6e5-43c2-94af-9c33c46b8687] Andrea Jaramillo Zamorano Asesor de Ventas Banmédica RM Cel +56 9 4613 5025 ajaramillo(a)banmedica.cl [cid:92807a76-405b-468c-92d7-c8c10015226a] "Este mensaje y sus adjuntos pueden contener información confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted el destinatario indicado, queda notificado que la lectura, utilización, divulgación, reenvío o copia sin autorización por el firmante, se encuentra estrictamente prohibido en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda de inmediato a su eliminación".

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Antitrust investigation into RIPE NCC may expose members to tens of millions in potential legal costs for defending actions that violate members’ rights.
by Lu Heng 16 May '25

16 May '25

*Hi colleagues:* *Below are finding from law firm:* *RIPE NCC qualifies as an association of undertakings in the sense of EU competition law. In view of its activities, such as the allocation and registration of Internet number resources, RIPE NCC itself may also be regarded as an undertaking under EU competition law. The same applies to the other four regional Internet registries (RIRs). It follows that RIPE NCC is obliged to act in line with EU competition law: * - *as an association of undertakings, it must comply with Article 101(1) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU), which prohibits decisions by associations of undertakings which may affect trade between Member States and which have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the internal market of the European Union. This is also known as the cartel prohibition;* - *as an undertaking, it must comply with Article 101(1) TFEU, which also prohibits agreements between undertakings which may affect trade between Member States and which have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the internal market of the European Union;* - *as an undertaking, it must also comply with Article 102 TFEU, which prohibits the abuse of a dominant position within the internal market of the European Union.* *As regards the applicability of this Article 102 TFEU to RIPE NCC, it is important to note that the current standard service agreement of RIPE NCC, as well as the proposed new model, in conjunction with the RIR Governance Document, grants RIPE NCC complete territorial exclusivity to allocate and register Internet number resources in its own service area. Consequently, RIPE NCC holds a monopoly in its service area and should therefore be considered subject to the prohibition of abuse of a dominant position as set out in Article 102 TFEU.* *We have been advised by Loyens & Loeff that several restrictions in the current and the proposed service agreement of RIPE NCC and the RIR Governance Document may raise concerns under EU competition law, and could be contrary to the cartel prohibition and/or the prohibition of abuse of dominance.* *Firstly, the allocation of exclusive territorial service areas to each of the five RIRs could possibly be interpreted as a market sharing agreement. In general, market sharing agreements are considered to constitute serious hard core infringements of the cartel prohibition. These types of agreements only very rarely escape the applicability of the cartel prohibition, and usually do not qualify for an exemption from this prohibition.* *In addition, the current and the proposed service agreement of RIPE NCC excludes the portability of rights to number resources. The fact that these rights are not portable is likely to restrict potential competitors of RIPE NCC (both existing RIRs as well as companies desirous to become RIRs) to offer their services to users in RIPE NCC’s service area. Therefore, to the extent that the current and proposed regime does not allow for number portability, this could be regarded as a decision of an association of undertakings which is contrary to the cartel prohibition, as well as an abuse of RIPE NCC’s dominant position in its service area.* *The consequences of an infringement of the cartel prohibition or of an abuse of a dominant position can be extremely severe. Perhaps most importantly:* - *the European Commission may impose very high fines, which may go up to 10% of the worldwide annual group turnover;* - *parties that have suffered damages as a result of the infringement of EU competition law, may ask for compensation of these damages in civil court proceedings.* *** We hope the above is helpful. Happy to discuss. -- Kind regards. Lu

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RIPE 90 Highlights and Thank You!
by Mirjam Kühne 16 May '25

16 May '25

Dear all, RIPE 90 ended with a total of 648 attendees checked in onsite in Lisbon and 172 checked in online across the meeting week, with more joining in via the livestream and YouTube. Thank you all for making this RIPE Meeting such a success! We were happy to see active participation at this meeting from both online and onsite participants. We would like to thank all the speakers, Working Group Chairs, the Programme Committee, the Code of Conduct Team and our sponsors for their contributions. Over the past week, we have had many exciting plenary sessions, lightning talks, Working Group sessions, BoFs and social events. You can find the highlights from each day in the Daily Meeting Blog at: https://ripe90.ripe.net/programme/blog/ All presentations from the meeting are archived: https://ripe90.ripe.net/presentation-archive/ You can already register for RIPE 91, taking place in Bucharest, Romania from 20-24 October 2025. The call for presentations will open in the coming weeks, so keep an eye out for the announcement! You can get updates via the RIPE Discussion list, social media and the RIPE 91 website: https://ripe91.ripe.net Best regards, Mirjam Kühne, RIPE Chair, and Niall O’Reilly, RIPE Vice-Chair

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Register Now for RIPE 91!
by Meeting Mailbox 16 May '25

16 May '25

Dear colleagues, You can now register for the RIPE 91 Meeting at: https://ripe91.ripe.net/attend/attendee-info/register/ RIPE 91 will take place at the JW Marriott Bucharest Grand Hotel <https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/buhro-jw-marriott-bucharest-grand-hot…> , Romania, from 20-24 October 2025. ------------------- Ticket Options ------------------- Week ticket: € 400 (Early Bird €350) Day ticket: €130 (Early Bird €125) Student (week) ticket: € 50 Dinner Ticket: € 75 The early bird rate is available until 21 July 2025. You can find more information about ticket options at: https://ripe91.ripe.net/attend/attendee-info/register/ ---------------------------- Call for Presentations ---------------------------- Call for Presentations will open on 4 June. The RIPE Programme Committee (PC) will be seeking content proposals from the RIPE community for the plenary sessions, BoFs (Birds of Feather sessions), workshops, tutorials and lightning talks. Proposals must be submitted for full consideration no later than 31 July. The deadline to submit lightning talks is 6 October. Please check back later for more information at: https://ripe91.ripe.net/present/call-for-presentations/ ---------------------- Call for Sponsors ----------------------- Supporting a RIPE Meeting through sponsorship gives your organisation fantastic exposure in the global Internet community. Get in touch with the RIPE Meeting team if you are interested in sponsoring RIPE 91: https://ripe91.ripe.net/about/sponsors/ --------------- Local Hubs --------------- Not everyone can travel to Bucharest to attend RIPE 91 in person. Want to help bring the RIPE community together in your area? Host a Local Hub! https://ripe91.ripe.net/attend/local-hubs/ -------- RACI --------- The RIPE Academic Cooperation Initiative (RACI) covers the cost of the meeting ticket, travel and accommodation for successful applicants to present their research at RIPE 91. Apply before 21 July at: https://www.ripe.net/community/community-initiatives/raci/ ------------------------------ Mentoring Programme ----------------------------- The RIPE Meeting Mentoring Programme connects newcomers with experienced members of the community. RIPE Meetings have brought people together for over 25 years to talk about Internet operations, policy, and governance. As the community grows, we want everyone to feel welcome and involved—no matter their skills or experience. Want to be a mentor or find one? For more information about how to become a mentor or be paired with a mentor, visit: https://ripe91.ripe.net/attend/on-site/mentoring-programme/ --------------------- Accommodation --------------------- Due to the limited number of rooms available, please book your accommodation soon: https://ripe91.ripe.net/attend/on-site/accommodation/ ----------------------- On-site Childcare ------------------------ We're making it easier for parents to fully participate in the RIPE Meeting by offering professional, on-site childcare for children aged 6 months to 10 years. Space is limited, so be sure to register before 15 September to confirm. For more information, visit: https://ripe91.ripe.net/attend/on-site/childcare/ ----------------------------------------- Important Dates and Deadlines ----------------------------------------- 16 May: Registration opens 16 May: Call for applications for RACI opens 16 May: Call for Local Hubs opens 4 June: Call for Presentations opens 21 July: Deadline for Early Bird registration 21 July: RACI application deadline 31 July: Deadline to submit a talk 15 Sept: Mentoring application deadline 15 Sept: Local Hub application deadline 15 Sept: Childcare application deadline 26 Sept: Sponsorship deadline 29 Sept: Final programme published 06 Oct: Lightning Talk submissions accepted 10 Oct: Deadline to send recorded presentations to be published on the website 20 Oct – 24 Oct: RIPE 91 takes place in Bucharest More information about RIPE 91 can be found at: https://ripe91.ripe.net/ Track the #RIPE91 hashtag on social media for the latest updates. See you in Bucharest! Kind Regards, The Meeting Organisation Team

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Re: ripe-list Digest, Vol 163, Issue 7
by sdy＠a-n-t.ru 16 May '25

16 May '25

WTF? I'm sorry, but if we keep moving in this direction, then apparently: In line with European tolerance and Eastern wisdom. The next step is to invite each participant in the network exchange to assign their own addresses in accordance with their self-determination! I think the European Commission and Antimonopoly authorities will support this position. Well, lawyers certainly won't refuse this work. ---- Serbulov Dmitry. > Send ripe-list mailing list submissions to > ripe-list(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > ripe-list-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ripe-list-owner(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ripe-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Antitrust investigation into RIPE NCC may expose members to tens > of millions in potential legal costs for defending actions that violate > members’ rights. > (Lu Heng) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 06:54:26 +0100 > From: Lu Heng <h.lu(a)anytimechinese.com> > Subject: [ripe-list] Re: Antitrust investigation into RIPE NCC may > expose members to tens of millions in potential legal costs for > defending actions that violate members’ rights. > To: Alex de Joode <adejoode(a)idgara.nl> > Cc: RIPE List <ripe-list(a)ripe.net> > Message-ID: > <CAAvCx3iciN+idh=wyH0Y1TyMSF8_DJBjbaoSg0_HLWvBHgEa9Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000e01f6b06353a6aa0" > > Hi Alex: > > The assertion that I have manufactured this issue, rather than > acknowledging it as a serious matter requiring attention from RIPE NCC and > the RIPE community, represents a fundamentally flawed approach. > Nonetheless, in the interest of complete community transparency, I will > address your question below. > > -- > Kind regards. > Lu > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 16:06 Alex de Joode <adejoode(a)idgara.nl> wrote: > >> Hi Lu, >> >> Thanks for your entertaining performance at the GM. >> >> I'm grateful for the mail below. Please allow me to share a few comments >> with you and the community: >> >> selection of lawfirm: Loyens & Loeff is a well regarded tax law firm, >> however their Competition Law department is only Band3/4 on the Chambers >> Ranking so would it be correct for me to surmise the top-tier >> Competition >> Law firms in The Netherlands declined to respresent you (for instance >> due >> to lack of substance of your claim)? >> > > Attacking the person not the merit? > > Also your assumption is simply factually wrong, no law firm have declined > the case due to lack of substance. > > But Full transparency from my internal legal team send to me as I equire, > and yes, we had “higher band” law firm actually sent the letter to RIPE, > but we find Loyens & Loeff simply more capable: > > “Dear Mr. Lu, > > > > 1) Respectfully, the band rankings of law firms, such as those by > Chambers&Partners or Legal 500, are not entirely objective. While these > platforms claim that their rankings are free, nominations often require a > fee, including in Malaysia. In practice, they function more as > branding/marketing tools rather than genuine merit-based assessments. > > > > For example, the first lawyer we spoke with, and sent our first letter to > RIPE NCC, Bird&Bird Law firm, is ranked Band 2 for EU Competition by Legal > 500. However, based on our experience, we found her approach lacking in > both capability and ability in handling instructions. > > > > 2) Given that RIPE is based in the Netherlands, it is most appropriate to > engage a Dutch law firm, both for jurisdictional and geographical reasons > for the summons to issue. This ensures that we can seek remedies not just > under EU competition law, but also under Dutch tort law, where relevant. > > > > In this context, Marc and the firm Loyens & Loeff were mentioned a couple > times when we are sourcing. He was recommended by many other EU lawyers in > their emails as working partners in the Amsterdam when realising RIPE is > in > Amsterdam. (screenshots below) > > > > Ultimately, the quality of service depends more on the individual lawyer > than the firm. > > (i) Marc has showed expertise and experience, as well as a willingness to > understand and accommodate our concerns. > > (ii) Hence, Marc can be said to be truly and well recognised in the eyes > of > other EU lawyers and he has the capability to sort this out. > > > > Hope that explains.” > > > > >> internally incoherent argumentation: you state all 5 RIR's fall under >> the >> EU Competition Law, however if that is the case how can RIPE have a >> monopoly (there is choice then)? >> > > We will publish full review report in due course for community to view. > > For clarity, below are the member rights I previously shared in the > Telegram group to avoid anti trust claims—particularly since the RIPE > Board > appears to dismiss the legitimacy of those discussions, labeling them as > “unofficial.” > > > Summary of Key Rights and Their Importance: > • Portability of IP Addresses: Members can move their IP allocations to > another provider or registry if needed, similar to phone number > portability. This prevents lock-in and ensures RIRs cannot trap members in > an unfair situation, addressing monopoly concerns directly. > • Transferability and Ownership Rights: Members may transfer or sell > addresses under transparent rules. This creates an open market for IP > resources and avoids RIR over-control. Members retain value in their > addresses, and supply can meet demand without RIR interference, reducing > incentives for antitrust claims . > • Equal Access (Non-Discrimination): All qualifying members receive > services on equal terms – no favoritism or unjust exclusions. This upholds > neutrality. With open membership and uniform policies, RIRs demonstrate > they aren’t picking winners or reinforcing dominance of any one player. > • Due Process in Sanctions: Clear procedures for any resource revocation > or > membership closure, including notice and chance to remedy. This fairness > in > enforcement shows that any resource reclamation is policy-driven, not > arbitrary. It prevents scenarios where a member feels wronged without > being > heard, which often lead to lawsuits. > • Appeal and Conflict Resolution: Mechanisms (arbitration, appeals > committee) for independent review of RIR decisions. This gives members > confidence that they can challenge decisions internally. It helps resolve > disputes amicably and demonstrates accountability, making regulatory > intervention less necessary. > • Transparency and Accountability: Open publication of registries, > policies, and decision-making processes, plus member governance of the > RIR. > This sunlight deters anti-competitive behavior and ensures community > oversight. An RIR that is transparent about its actions is far less likely > to be accused of conspiratorial or abusive conduct. > > > > > >> As you are well aware law firms add loads of disclaimers to their >> opinions, but these are not listed below. Would you be so kind as the >> share >> the whole opinion, so the wider community can also see the disclaimers >> the >> law firm wrote in the opinion and come to a better appriciation of your >> claim? >> > > Nope, what I posted is the entirety of their email, with header I omitted > in which I am going to share here: > > Dear all, > > > > As agreed yesterday, please find below some speaker notes that could be > used by Mr. Lu at the RIPE NCC conference. Please have a close look if the > proposed argumentation correctly reflects your thoughts as to why the > decisions of RIPE NCC may restrict competition. > > > > Since we have successfully completed the KYC process, please feel free to > refer to the name of Loyens & Loeff as your advisors in this matter. > Please > note, however, that our comments are still of a rather general nature at > this stage because we have not yet been able to do any profound research > or > in depth analysis on this matter. > > > > >> Thanks, >> Alex >> -- >> IDGARA | Alex de Joode | alex(a)idgara.nl | +31651108221 >> >> On Thu, 15-05-2025 8h 21min, Lu Heng <h.lu(a)anytimechinese.com> wrote: >> >> *Hi colleagues:* >> >> >> *Below are finding from law firm:* >> >> >> *RIPE NCC qualifies as an association of undertakings in the sense of EU >> competition law. In view of its activities, such as the allocation and >> registration of Internet number resources, RIPE NCC itself may also be >> regarded as an undertaking under EU competition law. The same applies to >> the other four regional Internet registries (RIRs). It follows that RIPE >> NCC is obliged to act in line with EU competition law: * >> >> >> >> - *as an association of undertakings, it must comply with Article >> 101(1) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU), >> which >> prohibits decisions by associations of undertakings which may affect >> trade >> between Member States and which have as their object or effect the >> prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the >> internal >> market of the European Union. This is also known as the cartel >> prohibition;* >> - *as an undertaking, it must comply with Article 101(1) TFEU, which >> also prohibits agreements between undertakings which may affect trade >> between Member States and which have as their object or effect the >> prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the >> internal >> market of the European Union;* >> - *as an undertaking, it must also comply with Article 102 TFEU, >> which >> prohibits the abuse of a dominant position within the internal market >> of >> the European Union.* >> >> >> >> *As regards the applicability of this Article 102 TFEU to RIPE NCC, it >> is >> important to note that the current standard service agreement of RIPE >> NCC, >> as well as the proposed new model, in conjunction with the RIR >> Governance >> Document, grants RIPE NCC complete territorial exclusivity to allocate >> and >> register Internet number resources in its own service area. >> Consequently, >> RIPE NCC holds a monopoly in its service area and should therefore be >> considered subject to the prohibition of abuse of a dominant position as >> set out in Article 102 TFEU.* >> >> >> >> *We have been advised by Loyens & Loeff that several restrictions in the >> current and the proposed service agreement of RIPE NCC and the RIR >> Governance Document may raise concerns under EU competition law, and >> could >> be contrary to the cartel prohibition and/or the prohibition of abuse of >> dominance.* >> >> >> >> *Firstly, the allocation of exclusive territorial service areas to each >> of >> the five RIRs could possibly be interpreted as a market sharing >> agreement. >> In general, market sharing agreements are considered to constitute >> serious >> hard core infringements of the cartel prohibition. These types of >> agreements only very rarely escape the applicability of the cartel >> prohibition, and usually do not qualify for an exemption from this >> prohibition.* >> >> >> >> *In addition, the current and the proposed service agreement of RIPE NCC >> excludes the portability of rights to number resources. The fact that >> these >> rights are not portable is likely to restrict potential competitors of >> RIPE >> NCC (both existing RIRs as well as companies desirous to become RIRs) to >> offer their services to users in RIPE NCC’s service area. Therefore, to >> the >> extent that the current and proposed regime does not allow for number >> portability, this could be regarded as a decision of an association of >> undertakings which is contrary to the cartel prohibition, as well as an >> abuse of RIPE NCC’s dominant position in its service area.* >> >> >> >> *The consequences of an infringement of the cartel prohibition or of an >> abuse of a dominant position can be extremely severe. Perhaps most >> importantly:* >> >> >> >> - *the European Commission may impose very high fines, which may go >> up >> to 10% of the worldwide annual group turnover;* >> - *parties that have suffered damages as a result of the infringement >> of EU competition law, may ask for compensation of these damages in >> civil >> court proceedings.* >> >> >> >> *** >> >> >> >> We hope the above is helpful. Happy to discuss. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards. >> Lu >> >> ----- >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription >> options, >> please visit: >> https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/ripe-list.ripe.net/ >> As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account >> with >> the email matching your subscription before you can change your >> settings. >> More details at: >> https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ >> >> >

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My second post in NANOG
by info＠netstyle.io 16 May '25

16 May '25

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello, I kindly bring my following linked second post in NANOG to the attention of the RIPE community: https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/LBIRATB… Kind Regards, Elad -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: ProtonMail wsG5BAEBCgBtBYJoJwKHCZCAS+uEnipSW0UUAAAAAAAcACBzYWx0QG5vdGF0 aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwanMub3JnbDtCX3nnl6XmGelJYKijv2FgINLpXj8j190o 2cev0jsWIQTD50Y2bI5NSOj/nnWAS+uEnipSWwAAf+oP/izMBwanQfPU5aDT R6Ibz5VI2+zGFfj4mE363adY53vzgViiffKKazVOuJDWIAUkVUOHV+7XPAet 8H754ye9+y4m/5+TcKerUziocPgbNDayrz+UaGwBN9yh7cWiaCq+XVZEJDWy 5DFIJggYQ0OT0xSb1kmfeGV9QyxLZD24LHUc8eM5Pyf0vkFb61/lNVqpQvtt JC7pwsYR8k+Nd7jqqArcyHt3wHyMw60FvVOH194dOK3DbS65s59X0y6FTQCi 9MsBZHrnG/rNxx2rESJOWd4VXYSn9MonZKEsBnfIuSk36XMBefS+kF8c1Isb gXmf9F7W+ku7sqhVl2fv81/d7le3/6O0RxYNO6AXUcMACDHn5Ff9FiJqYHXA 0F7N2HjeLXnoNvhFcLdSqE+ZQU9OmkTmjYmoto0UD/ZGvo02A7ONpa3LAAq5 18Njt7CbRYyMaH7T0u32+4l/VMDGGTGjki0l7fEt30hWiuITiH2uSJpTaikM 4Y3souHF+ol5k4psvMq1EyaJgAxpmTH9v8gYE53qSSNdBAV7/q7SH0sqyHHy q7/3IRu/WNedPXTn+ZYzrf2bjvlHHooI1E+j3uyA6sWHEi7XG4m7ALia82CW 8x7ume/Sk8gr7N7P8gvG4DYXl5yWps6bEuFjAqUfrlwElJwh0DfvuM1K8UwU 6XFx1QJJ =Pp7P -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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16 May '25

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Error fixing proposal for your website.
by Bonnie Dach 16 May '25

16 May '25

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