On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:08, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
how did we come to this decision; the nomcom being the wg chair retirement home? brandy and cigars?
Damn, missed those, again (well, if someone wants my share of the hypothetical cigar I will gladly pass it on) ;)
This looks mostly fine, with the exception of the involvement of the WG Chairs Collective in the NomCom appointment process.
aside from process issues which you point out, this would remove the chairs from candidacy, maybe not the wisest of moves, as a few of them actually *do* things.
Actually, the way I understood it was the wg charts “collective” would admin the process of putting together the nomcom (a process that is itself undefined at this time and could be, as I seem to recall some discussion, similar to the random selection of the IETF). I didn’t sign up anywhere to be the nomcom because a self-appointed nomcom… defeats the purpose of an open nomcom.
There are other similar organisation structures on the internet who have nomcom mechanisms which work well, which the RIPE community could use.
the ietf's semi-randomiezed process comes to mind; though it is a bit complex. but at least it is not an old girls'/boys' club.
Hmmm…, ballot stuffing of the pool from which members are picked may or may not have happened there, possibly unbalancing the process somewhat. Perfection is hard. I have no better system to offer though, just tuning of the process, if that.
I'm not able to support the current proposal
nor am i.
randy