May 2019 - ripe-chair-discuss

Where is consensus happening?
by Rob Evans 22 May '19

22 May '19

Hi, During the social last night I realised that I'd come away from the BoF yesterday with a different interpretation of the subject we nearly rat-holed on, and that's where the consensus call is happening. I expected it would be on ripe-list as this is a community thing, but the person I was talking with said they thought it would be this list. Cheers, Rob Jisc is a registered charity (number 1149740) and a company limited by guarantee which is registered in England under Company No. 5747339, VAT No. GB 197 0632 86. Jisc’s registered office is: One Castlepark, Tower Hill, Bristol, BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800. Jisc Services Limited is a wholly owned Jisc subsidiary and a company limited by guarantee which is registered in England under company number 2881024, VAT number GB 197 0632 86. The registered office is: One Castle Park, Tower Hill, Bristol BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800.

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ripe-nomcom-11.md (ripe-xxx)
by Daniel Karrenberg 19 May '19

19 May '19

Attached you find a couple of corrections to the ripe-xxx draft with thanks to Brian Nisbet for one of those. The diff is included below. This is now the version to discuss here and at the BoF on Tuesday. Daniel ------- Other formats: https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-nomcom-11.html https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-nomcom-11.pdf ------------- --- ripe-nomcom-10.md +++ ripe-nomcom-11.md ripe-xxx -***D R A F T - Version 1.0*** +***D R A F T - Version 1.1*** May 2019 @@ -452,7 +452,7 @@ *The Chair does not vote on the selection of candidates.* -4.5. Chair Selection +### Chair Selection The chair of the RIPE NCC Executive board *appoints the Chair, who must meet the same requirements @@ -1142,7 +1142,7 @@ The chair of the RIPE NCC Executive Board *shall appoint a Recall Committee Chair*. -The cairn of the RIPE NCC Executive Board +The chair of the RIPE NCC Executive Board *must not evaluate the recall request. It is explicitly the responsibility of the* RIPE *community to evaluate the behavior of its* officials. @@ -1165,8 +1165,8 @@ *The recall committee investigates the circumstances of the justification for the recall and votes on its findings.* -*The investigation must include at least both an opportunity for the -member being recalled to present a written statement and consultation +*The investigation must include at least both an opportunity for the* +official *being recalled to present a written statement and consultation with third parties.* ### 3/4 Majority

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ripe-chair-selection-11.md (ripe-yyy)
by Daniel Karrenberg 19 May '19

19 May '19

Attached you find a small revision to the ripe-yyy draft with a clarification suggested from Jim Reid. The diff is included below. This is now the version to discuss here and at the BoF on Tuesday. Personally I consider this ready for consensus call. Daniel ------- Other formats: https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-chair-selection-11.html https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-chair-selection-11.pdf ------- --- ripe-chair-selection-10.md +++ ripe-chair-selection-11.md @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ ripe-yyy -***D R A F T - Version 1.0*** +***D R A F T - Version 1.1*** May 2019 @@ -132,7 +132,10 @@ ## Continuity In case the RIPE Chair resigns, the RIPE Vice Chair takes on the role of -RIPE Chair and promptly initiates this selection procedure. In case the RIPE Vice Chair is not available either, the RIPE WG Chairs Collective promptly selects a person to act as RIPE Chair Ad Interim and initiates this selection procedure. +RIPE Chair and promptly initiates this selection procedure. +In case the RIPE Vice Chair is not available either, +the RIPE WG Chairs Collective promptly initiates this selection procedure +and selects a person to act as RIPE Chair Ad Interim. In case the RIPE Vice Chair resigns, the RIPE Chair consults the community on how to proceed. They may either select a person to fill the role for the remaining term or decide to initiate this selection procedure. ------------

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ripe-chair-selection-10.md & ripe-nomcom-10.md
by Daniel Karrenberg 14 May '19

14 May '19

Dear colleagues, Attached are two documents which we submit for discussion on the RIPE Chair selection process. One of the documents, marked "ripe-xxx", is perhaps quite different in length from what RIPE has been practicing until now. We'd like to explain how we landed on this as the proposal. Following the discussion at RIPE 77, the authors sought to come up with a "BCP10-like" procedure for RIPE. The more we looked at the text of BCP10 itself, and tried to come up with our own adjustments, the more it became clear that it is like program code: most of the time, the procedure follows a short path through the code; it's the error handling that adds to the length. That "error handling" text has been arrived at over time and much review in the IETF. So rather than remove chunks of it, with the risk of omitting something that the community would then have to reinvent, we decided to reuse BCP10 almost in its entirety. If the community decides, on reflection, that certain sections aren't needed after all, then they can of course be removed. We have highlighted the original text from BCP10 in *markdown emphasis*. This is a RIPE proposal and so all text is open to discussion, but when reviewing the document, this will advise you whether you are commenting on new text or text originally from BCP10. So: - ripe-yyy states the role to be selected, and that a nominating committee will be used to select for it. - ripe-xxx describes how to compose and operate that nominating committee. ripe-yyy is a close adaption of the text we have been discussing here up to now. The most significant change is the reference to the recall procedure of ripe-xxx. The documents are written in markdown. For those you prefer other formats we provide PDF and HTML here: https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-chair-selection-10.html https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-nomcom-10.html https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-chair-selection-10.pdf https://web.karrenberg.net/ripe-chair-discuss/ripe-nomcom-10.pdf We look forward to your comments on this list, and the discussion at RIPE 78. As usual we encourage you to propose alternative text when suggesting improvements. For the authors Daniel

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