Dear Atlas folks, I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other. The disconnect mail has a subject like this: "Probe ID is disconnected (Name (ISP))" The reconnect mail has this: "Your RIPE Atlas Probe (ID: XXX) has reconnected" For me this is a bit confusing. When I sort my inbox alphabetically on subject, it would be really nice if the messages are grouped close together, which currently is not the case. It would helpful to me if this could be improved, by adjusting the specific text in the subject a bit. Thanks. -- Marco
Seconded. How about: “Your Probe #[probe_id]: [this, _that_and the_other…]”? Sufficient? Best, -C.
Am 11.09.2024 um 13:32 schrieb Marco Davids (Private) via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net>:
Dear Atlas folks,
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other.
The disconnect mail has a subject like this:
"Probe ID is disconnected (Name (ISP))"
The reconnect mail has this:
"Your RIPE Atlas Probe (ID: XXX) has reconnected"
For me this is a bit confusing.
When I sort my inbox alphabetically on subject, it would be really nice if the messages are grouped close together, which currently is not the case.
It would helpful to me if this could be improved, by adjusting the specific text in the subject a bit.
Thanks.
-- Marco
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Hi, On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 01:32:41PM +0200, Marco Davids (Private) via ripe-atlas wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other.
"In-Reply-To:" and/or "References:", please, so my MUA can nicely sort these together. (I do not particulary care about the Subject: but wouldn't *mind* having a common format either) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
On 9/11/24 1:50 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other. "In-Reply-To:" and/or "References:", please, so my MUA can nicely sort these together.
This might be harder, as you have to store message-id of original notification sent to each particular user in database. I think this is "stateless" now (just sending notification about status change). - Daniel
Hi, On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 01:56:53PM +0200, Daniel Suchy via ripe-atlas wrote:
On 9/11/24 1:50 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other. "In-Reply-To:" and/or "References:", please, so my MUA can nicely sort these together.
This might be harder, as you have to store message-id of original notification sent to each particular user in database. I think this is "stateless" now (just sending notification about status change).
The system knows when the probe disappeared, so has a timestamp that can be used to generate (togehter with the probe ID) a unique message ID which can be reconstructed on the second & further mails... Since there is an connect/disconnect history in the web page, the system very likely already stores all necessary details :-) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Hi, On 9/11/24 2:24 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other. "In-Reply-To:" and/or "References:", please, so my MUA can nicely sort these together.
This might be harder, as you have to store message-id of original notification sent to each particular user in database. I think this is "stateless" now (just sending notification about status change).
The system knows when the probe disappeared, so has a timestamp that can be used to generate (togehter with the probe ID) a unique message ID which can be reconstructed on the second & further mails...
Since there is an connect/disconnect history in the web page, the system very likely already stores all necessary details :-)
If I look on message headers, notifications messages are sent from somewhat random workers. And worker hostname is now part of message id (sure, this can be changed to something more generic). I'm not saying it's not possible, but proper analysis needs to be performed. - Daniel
Gert Doering -- NetMaster
Hi, On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 02:34:28PM +0200, Daniel Suchy via ripe-atlas wrote:
If I look on message headers, notifications messages are sent from somewhat random workers. And worker hostname is now part of message id (sure, this can be changed to something more generic). I'm not saying it's not possible, but proper analysis needs to be performed.
I fully trust the RIPE NCC engineers to get this right, if they decide it's worth doing this to make me shut up ;-) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Am 11.09.2024 um 14:59 schrieb Gert Doering <gert@space.net>: […]
I fully trust the RIPE NCC engineers to get this right, if they decide it's worth doing this to make me shut up ;-)
To scratch the (in)famous Gert itch, so to speak? ;->
Am 11.09.2024 um 13:57 schrieb Daniel Suchy via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net>: On 9/11/24 1:50 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other. "In-Reply-To:" and/or "References:", please, so my MUA can nicely sort these together.
This might be harder, as you have to store message-id of original notification sent to each particular user in database. I think this is "stateless" now (just sending notification about status change).
I’d assume that the entire RIPE Atlas system is heavily database driven anyway - so this specific implementation might be a nice students’ project? Best, -C.
+1. Enabling preconditions for proper threading might also help, yes.
Am 11.09.2024 um 13:50 schrieb Gert Doering <gert@space.net>:
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 01:32:41PM +0200, Marco Davids (Private) via ripe-atlas wrote: I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other.
"In-Reply-To:" and/or "References:", please, so my MUA can nicely sort these together.
(I do not particulary care about the Subject: but wouldn't *mind* having a common format either)
Gert Doering -- NetMaster
Hi Marco, I noticed this too as I am working on a new version of these emails. The new ones will have the subject lines the same so they should group together. Cheers, Johan ter Beest RIPE Atlas Team On Wed, 11 Sept 2024 at 13:32, Marco Davids (Private) via ripe-atlas < ripe-atlas@ripe.net> wrote:
Dear Atlas folks,
I was wondering if it is possible to bring dis- and reconnect messages of RIPE Atlas probes more in line with each other.
The disconnect mail has a subject like this:
"Probe ID is disconnected (Name (ISP))"
The reconnect mail has this:
"Your RIPE Atlas Probe (ID: XXX) has reconnected"
For me this is a bit confusing.
When I sort my inbox alphabetically on subject, it would be really nice if the messages are grouped close together, which currently is not the case.
It would helpful to me if this could be improved, by adjusting the specific text in the subject a bit.
Thanks.
-- Marco
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Marco Davids (Private)