Hi, have there been software updates for v1 probes recently? I've heard about a few v1 probes that have died "just last week" - mine among them (#461), fell off the net with "Firewall Problems Suspected", but it's no longer even ARPing properly (= either it totally lost its config and wants DHCP now, which there isn't in this network, or it just died)... So knowing whether this is a more widespread issue and possible reasons would help me to decide how much effort to invest in debugging this. gert -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Mine is fine, Gert. :-) On 02.06.2020 20:28, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
have there been software updates for v1 probes recently? I've heard about a few v1 probes that have died "just last week" - mine among them (#461), fell off the net with "Firewall Problems Suspected", but it's no longer even ARPing properly (= either it totally lost its config and wants DHCP now, which there isn't in this network, or it just died)...
So knowing whether this is a more widespread issue and possible reasons would help me to decide how much effort to invest in debugging this.
gert
Hi, On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 08:32:30PM +0200, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
Mine is fine, Gert. :-)
Then it's maybe just old age (and the location is not particularily well air-conditioned)... Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
On 02.06.2020 20:34, Gert Doering wrote:
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 08:32:30PM +0200, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
Mine is fine, Gert. :-)
Then it's maybe just old age (and the location is not particularily well air-conditioned)...
Seems that your probe eventually got to its Roy Batty moment then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoAzpa1x7jU&t=155
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 19:29, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
Hi,
have there been software updates for v1 probes recently? I've heard about a few v1 probes that have died "just last week" - mine among them (#461), fell off the net with "Firewall Problems Suspected", but it's no longer even ARPing properly (= either it totally lost its config and wants DHCP now, which there isn't in this network, or it just died)...
My v1 probe died a few months ago and the ripe team replaced it with a current one. I guess the v1s are ageing out. — Hugh Saunders
My v1 probe is working fine. My v3 probe unfortunately is not. IPv4 was out for some weeks (IPv6 working fine), but i fixed it yesterday (changed the usb stick). It's now reachable over IPv4 (ICMP) but somehow it can't register itself... Regards, Carlos On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 20:08, Hugh Saunders <hugh@wherenow.org> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 19:29, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
Hi,
have there been software updates for v1 probes recently? I've heard about a few v1 probes that have died "just last week" - mine among them (#461), fell off the net with "Firewall Problems Suspected", but it's no longer even ARPing properly (= either it totally lost its config and wants DHCP now, which there isn't in this network, or it just died)...
My v1 probe died a few months ago and the ripe team replaced it with a current one. I guess the v1s are ageing out.
— Hugh Saunders
Gert Doering wrote on 02/06/2020 19:28:
have there been software updates for v1 probes recently? I've heard about a few v1 probes that have died "just last week" - mine among them (#461), fell off the net with "Firewall Problems Suspected", but it's no longer even ARPing properly (= either it totally lost its config and wants DHCP now, which there isn't in this network, or it just died)...
So knowing whether this is a more widespread issue and possible reasons would help me to decide how much effort to invest in debugging this.
as you mention it, one of my v1 probes died on sunday:
Your probe 127 has been disconnected from the RIPE Atlas infrastructure since 2020-05-31 21:55:58 UTC.
Did this coincide with a software update or something on the control side? Nick
i have a few dead v1s. but they are a kkm away, where we would have to send remote hands in :( randy
On 3 Jun 2020, at 2:19, Randy Bush wrote:
i have a few dead v1s. but they are a kkm away, where we would have to send remote hands in :(
randy
V1s were introduced more than 10 years ago. Many are still going, after more than twice their expected life time. Be happy, replace them (eventually) and move on. Daniel Full disclosure: one of the designers of V1 probes.
So we reached 3rd part of the bathtub curve? ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve Regards, Grzegorz From: Daniel Karrenberg <dfk@ripe.net> Date: Wednesday 2020-06-03 at 09:57 To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Cc: "ripe-atlas@ripe.net" <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [atlas] dead v1 probe On 3 Jun 2020, at 2:19, Randy Bush wrote: i have a few dead v1s. but they are a kkm away, where we would have to send remote hands in :( randy V1s were introduced more than 10 years ago. Many are still going, after more than twice their expected life time. Be happy, replace them (eventually) and move on. Daniel Full disclosure: one of the designers of V1 probes.
On 2020/06/02 20:28 , Gert Doering wrote:
have there been software updates for v1 probes recently? I've heard about a few v1 probes that have died "just last week" - mine among them (#461), fell off the net with "Firewall Problems Suspected", but it's no longer even ARPing properly (= either it totally lost its config and wants DHCP now, which there isn't in this network, or it just died)...
No there haven't been any software updates for a very long time. For this reason they should be considered obsolete. However, we currently still support them, and we will try to release new firmware if there is a security issue. It seems that v1 and v2 probes are now starting to die faster. I have no idea what part is wearing out. Unfortuantely, due to corona, we are out of v4 probes. So the best thing to do at the moment is to replace dead v1/v2 probes with software probes. Philip
On 02/06/2020 23:28, Philip Homburg wrote: [...]
So the best thing to do at the moment is to replace dead v1/v2 probes with software probes.
I do have a V1 probe at home, since (almost) day 1 and I had another one dying already, due to the 'ancient' software update which broke a few. So I'd like to do some contingency planning... As I do not have a static machine there, just a laptop which goes with me onto the road, my Q is: what is the cheapest / recommended / smallest piece of hardware which can support a software probe? Any pointers for more info? TNX, ww144
Philip
On 2020/06/03 21:08 , Wilfried Wöber wrote:
As I do not have a static machine there, just a laptop which goes with me onto the road, my Q is: what is the cheapest / recommended / smallest piece of hardware which can support a software probe? Any pointers for more info?
The debian version of the software probe runs on a raspberry pi with raspbian. Any other small device with debian is probably fine as well.
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Carlos Friaças -
Carsten Schiefner -
Daniel Karrenberg -
Gert Doering -
Hugh Saunders -
Nick Hilliard (INEX) -
Philip Homburg -
Ponikierski, Grzegorz -
Randy Bush -
Wilfried Wöber