Did anything come of this? I just ran a measurement to spot check
something and the same AS47583 probes make up a "hilarious" amount of
results: https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/70655999#probes
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 23:16, Ben Cartwright-Cox <ripencc@benjojo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Those limits seem reasonable enough,
>
> My own intuition would suggest values of:
>
> X=2
> Y=3
> Z=5
>
> But otherwise, I welcome such a change being implemented!
>
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 15:43, Robert Kisteleki <robert@ripe.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Is there an immediate way to report these probes other than this
> > > mailing list? I don't know of one and so I'm here :)
> >
> >
> > Dear Ben and others,
> >
> > Each new, connected RIPE Atlas probe provides incremental value to the
> > system and its users, but this value decreases with similarity to
> > existing probes ("diminishing returns"). At the same time connecting a
> > probe and processing results from it has some costs, so we'd like to be
> > conscious of the cost/benefit ratio.
> >
> > Since the potential pool of software probes is almost infinite, in
> > response to the highlighted case, we'd like to propose the following
> > mid-term approach:
> >
> > * No user/account should be allowed to run more than X SW probes from
> > the same IP (X=3 ?)
> >
> > * No user/account should be allowed to run more than Y SW probes from
> > the same IPv4/24 IPv6/48 (Y=5 ?)
> >
> > * Regardless of the user/account, no more than Z SW probes should be
> > allowed from the same IPv4/24 IPv6/48 (Z=10 ?)
> >
> > X, Y and Z are defaults, can be changed per account. This is done in
> > order to facilitate corner cases and overstepping the limits, if this is
> > warranted (given a good explanation). We are also reaching out to the
> > current "peak users" to understand their use cases and motivations - the
> > above limits can be enforced depending on the responses.
> >
> > In the longer term we believe a more flexible approach is to base this
> > on what has been termed "probe similarity metrics": a new probe that is
> > really similar to some existing one has less value to the system,
> > therefore after reaching a low enough limit it can be refused, or
> > alternatively, simply not gaining credits for its owner. This
> > diincentivises creating "probe farms".
> >
> > Regards,
> >