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probe resolution, overhead, or ...?
by Randy Bush 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

we want to use atlas probes in an experiment. being prudent (you can tell it was not i), we decided to try to get some basic calibration. one run was just on a local LAN. three hosts on the same gige switch o probe 2285 o psg.com, a not very fancy or fast freebsd 9 box with intel/pro1000 gige ports o bbgp.psg.com, a funky older freebsd 9 box with bge gige probe 2285 pinging bbgp.psg.com, average RTT: 1.5606994382 [0], number of pings: 356*3 psg.com pinging bbgp.psg.com, average RTT: 0.253424332344 [0], number of pings: 674 has anyone done similar probe calibration experiments? does anyone have any clue as to why the difference? randy [0] - my favorite precision joke A gentleman accosts a guard in the museum and asks, "How old is that mummy?" The guard responds, "I believe it is 2005 years old." The gentleman asks "Why that particular age, 2005?" The guard responds "Well, I was told it was 2000 years old when I started work here five years ago."

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Changes to RIPE Atlas raw data structures
by Ann Barcomb 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

Hi, We are planning on updating RIPE Atlas probe firmware, which will lead to some changes in the raw data structures. An article about this has been posted on Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/ripe-atlas-data-structure-changes We don't plan to announce these changes to this list in the future, because this list is for a more general audience and this information may not be of general interest. Instead, we have created an RSS feed for these types of announcements: https://atlas.ripe.net/atlas/feed/ Kind Regards, Ann -- Ann Barcomb RIPE NCC Community Builder http://www.ripe.net Measurements Community Building +31 20 535 4444

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Feature-suggestion: "round-robin" probes
by Alexander Mayrhofer 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Hello, i'm figuring how RIPE atlas could be most useful for assisting in monitoring our Ancast Network, and came up with the following idea: The Atlas network has a big advantage over other monitoring /measurement networks, which is obviously its sheer size (and topological diversity). Rather than using the Atlas network for pure performance measurements, i would love to be able to use Atlas for reachability measurements (and understand which Anycast location attracts traffic from which region, and how this changes over time). These reachability / topology discovery measurements do not need to be nearly as frequent as the performance measurements, but should utilize all available probes. So, instead of being able to use 10 probes to run a continous performance test (say, DNS query every 300 seconds), i would rather like to be able to use a very high number of probes (best case: "all"), but have each of the probe eg. perform just one traceroute per day (or, even once per week would be enough). This would give me an excellent overview about the topology, but is not possible using the current limits of the UDMs. However, instead of allowing users to allocate measurements to a much higher number of probes, this functionality would also be possible be adding some "probe round-robin" feature to the control infrastructure, for example "randomly allocate a new set of probes every xx seconds". If that feature would exist, i could implement the above reachability test with the following parameters: Test: traceroute Number of probes: 10 Measurement interval: 3600 Swap probe-set interval: 10800 (NEW feature) (which would re-allocate new probes every 3 hours, theoretically working through all 1500 probes about every month?). An obvious alternative would be functionality where i could "queue" "single-shot" measurements for the whole network (since chances are low i would get every probe if they are randomly assigned). comments? Suggestions? Alternatives? Alex Mayrhofer Head of R&D nic.at

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Cannot ping 128.0.0.1, 128.0.24.1
by ckeck＠texoma.net 31 May '12

31 May '12

Cheers! Looked at my stats, and it looks as if not only my probe can't ping 128.0.0.1 and 128.0.24.1. The probe is hooked up to a router on a Verizon FIOS (fiberoptic) line. To see if that's a systemic issue, I pinged the same addresses from systems at work, as well as TMobile's (U.S.) wireless broadband, and they respond just fine. Question now is, where is the problem at? THX! -Cornelius -- Cornelius Keck -----------------------------------------> ckeck(a)texoma.net Beware, so long as you live, of judging men by their outward appearance. Jean de La Fontaine

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v6 support
by Randy Bush 29 May '12

29 May '12

i am not understanding why probe 2285 does not seem to even get an ipv6 address on the in-rack lan, while a whole lot of other devices do. and 2283 managed to get a v6 address but no gateway, and of course no v6dns. what do the little puppies want, nd ra ??? randy

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Ping to labs.ripe.net
by Dan Luedtke 16 May '12

16 May '12

Hi probe-admins, I see this on all my probes, do you have the same problem? Ping (IPv4) labs.ripe.net 193.0.6.153 100% packet loss regards Dan -- Dan Luedtke http://www.danrl.de

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by Thomas via Twoo 10 May '12

10 May '12

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Credit Consumption
by Jens Weibler 09 May '12

09 May '12

Hi, I just noticed that I can't create new measurements anymore: "Your current daily credit consumption (62496) is higher than you allowed (15000)." But I've got enough credits on my balance and I don't want to stop my measurements. Why can't I just change the probe count or the measurement interval? ;) -- Jens Weibler IT-Services Hochschule Darmstadt www.h-da.de University of Applied Sciences Fachbereich Informatik www.fbi.h-da.de Schöfferstr. 8b D-64295 Darmstadt Tel +49 6151 16-8425 Fax +49 6151 16-8935 jens.weibler(a)h-da.de

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New on RIPE Labs: Test your IPv6 Reachability by Using RIPE Atlas
by Ann Barcomb 09 May '12

09 May '12

[apologies for duplicate mails] Dear colleagues, RIPE Atlas can now be used to test your IPv6 reachability, even if you do not host a RIPE Atlas probe - provided you are a RIPE NCC member. More details can be found on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/test-your-ipv6-reachability-using-ripe-… If you have any comments or questions, please let us know. Kind Regards, Ann Barcomb

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Routing glitch between BSNL and F Root
by Anurag Bhatia 26 Apr '12

26 Apr '12

Hello, There has been some routing glitch in the F root server instance running in Chennai, India by niXi AS 24049. Govt. owned BSNL AS9829 routers are not hearing any BGP announcements and thus F root does not works at all on BSNL. anurag@laptop ~ $ traceroute f.root-servers.net -A traceroute to f.root-servers.net (192.5.5.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) [AS8151/AS28513] 1.552 ms 2.040 ms * 2 117.207.48.1 (117.207.48.1) [AS9829] 26.010 ms 28.433 ms 31.136 ms 3 218.248.173.42 (218.248.173.42) [AS9829] 34.497 ms 35.968 ms 38.372 ms 4 218.248.250.86 (218.248.250.86) [AS9829] 91.784 ms 94.430 ms 96.794 ms 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * I have been hosting RIPE Probe #1032 and here is F Root connectivity data from proble: [image: Inline image 1] As we can see root server is not accessible at all from Jan and even in Nov, Dec last year it was available with over 300ms latency which indicates network was not using Chennai anycast node since latency between this test probe placed in Haryana (North India) and Chennai (South India) should be around 70ms. Thanks. -- Anurag Bhatia anuragbhatia.com or simply - http://[2001:470:26:78f::5] if you are on IPv6 connected network! Twitter: @anurag_bhatia <https://twitter.com/#!/anurag_bhatia> Linkedin: http://linkedin.anuragbhatia.com -- This message has been scanned by Kaspersky Anti-Virus. For more information about data security please visit http://www.kaspersky.com and http://www.viruslist.com

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Request for RIPE Atlas probe DHCP change.
by Leo Bicknell 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Could the RIPE Atlas probe DHCP client please be configured to send a ClientID, perhaps "RIPEAtlasProbe"? Many home gateways show a list of DHCP clients and list the client ID. It would make it much easier to identify which device is which using these tools. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell(a)ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/

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ATLAS as mechanism for route policy discovery
by Alexander Asimov 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Hello. During last decade much attention was paid to topology discovery at inter-domain routing level. But most of these projects are only targeted on physical links discovery; at the same time there was little opportunity to check the real use of links by single AS. The knowledge of Autonomous System relationships from single AS view could be used in many cases. For example it could be used during designing AS or for traffic flow engineering purposes. In case to solve this problem we have invented several active probing algorithms for discovering real routing policy map from single AS view. One of them is based on using spoofed source IP. We send an echo request with record route option and source IP from our address space and as the result we can see the part of reverse trace from destination. This helps to understand which links are used by our AS. It is a kind of snapshot. This information is used in iteration process and the all data results in model of AS relationships which could be reversed to single view for every AS. At the current moment we cover with help of our nodes about 40% of transit AS, but with help of RIPE Atlas we will be able to cover more than 90%, and give back to community a tool for traffic flow prediction at interdomain routing level. Spoofing is obviously bad in most of cases, but not this time. We need opportunity to strictly spoof only one IP from our address space. The list technical requirements of our proposal: 1. 178.248.239.238 always will be used as spoofed address; 2. There will be about 15 experiments every day; 3. Each experiment will last not more than 10 minutes; 4. The total approximate packet generation activity from all nodes will be about 500 packets per second; 5. We need opportunity to have different measurement plans (list of destinations) on different nodes. We work with Planet Lab nodes in the same way: every day there is a new .gz archive with list of targets for all nodes, every node unpacks it and use then only a sublist of destinations, but the packet generation script is same on all nodes. We're open to discussion on procedures described above. Best regards, Alexader Asimov

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Measure DNS resolve times
by Daniel AJ Sokolov 10 Apr '12

10 Apr '12

Hello, My ISP has changed something and as a result DNS lookups have slowed down considerably. How would I set up a User Defined Measurements to perform certain lookups on a nameserver and measure the response times? Thank you Daniel AJ -- Follow me on twitter @newstik http://twitter.com/newstik

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RIPE Atlas User-Defined Measurements Are Here!
by Ann Barcomb 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

Dear Atlas Hosts and Sponsors, We are pleased to announce our first roll-out of user-defined measurements (UDM) for RIPE Atlas. As of today, all hosts and sponsors on this mailing list are invited to run custom measurements. Over the coming weeks we will continue to roll out UDM to a wider audience. To access UDM, either click on the link at the top right when you are logged in to the RIPE Atlas website, or go directly to: https://atlas.ripe.net/atlas/udm.html For the time being, we have created a fairly low rate limit, which we expect to increase over time. More information about limits and other aspects of the UDM system can be found in the documentation: https://atlas.ripe.net/doc/udm Discussion and questions about UDM can be directed to this mailing list (ripe-atlas(a)ripe.net) or to atlas-dev(a)ripe.net. You may also be interested in joining us at the UDM "Birds of a Feather" (BoF) session at RIPE 64 in Ljubljana, on Thursday, 19 April after the Measurements, Analysis and Tools (MAT) Working Group session. https://ripe64.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/bof/ Happy measuring! - The RIPE Atlas team

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labs.ripe.net dead?
by damkol＠gmail.com 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

Hello. 29.03.2012 labs.ripe.net stopped respond to icmp. https://zpm02.atlas.ripe.net/atlas/rrd.png?prb_id=741&msm_id=1007&type=week… >From other places with other internet connections also not respond to icmp. -- damkol(a)gmail.com

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Re: [atlas] Probe 2317 is down
by Colin Johnston 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

fixed internal network :) Can a request for enhancement be made for notification of probe goes up to the owner email ? Colin On 31 Mar 2012, at 08:30, RIPE Atlas wrote: > Dear colin, > > Your probe 2317 is down since 2012-03-31 06:56:49 UTC > > This is an automatically generated email from RIPE Atlas. It was sent to you because you asked to be notified if your probe goes is down for more than 30 minutes. > > If you want to change this, or disable this notification altogether, please go to https://atlas.ripe.net/atlas/myprobes.html, click on probe 2317, in the opened tab select Probe's Settings -> Notifications and change your settings. > > Atlas team

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change ownership of probe
by Thanos Tsakalos 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

Hello to all, Is there a way to change the ownership of a probe? Will it be ok if the probe is re-registered under the new email address (mac and pin are known) ? Or is there any other method to do it properly? Thank you, Triantafyllos

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Altas switching to "RIPE NCC Access"
by Vesna Manojlovic 27 Mar '12

27 Mar '12

Dear Atlas people, Tomorrow during the day we'll switch RIPE Atlas to use RIPE NCC Access, our Single-Sing-On mechanism. Maintenance will happen during our working hours (9-5, Amsterdam time), and it will last between 1 and 3 hours. During this, Atlas login will be disabled. The Atlas web site will have limited functionality. After the completed maintenance, the "log in" link on Atlas web site will be re-directed to the RIPE NCC Access log-in page. For other possible outcomes on this migration, please read Robert's article: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kistel/preparing-ripe-atlas-for-ripe-ncc-acce… Single-Sign-On functionality will enable us to share Atlas with the users of other RIPE NCC services; it will make the user-experience smoother for everyone who is accessing multiple services from the RIPE NCC (such as LIR Portal, RIPE Labs or RIPEstat), and will enable many new personalized features in the future. If you have any questions, please let us know. Thank you, Vesna

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Request to test TCP and UDP to the root servers separately.
by Leo Bicknell 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

My day job has had some interesting discussions lately about TCP to the root servers based on a few odd behaviors we've had reported to us over the past few years. There aren't any surprises in this data, it's been known for a long time some people think DNS is UDP only for instance, some firewalls are broken, and so on. What we realized though is that there is no wide-spread measurement of how often TCP is a problem. Immediately my thought went to the Atlas probe network. It's distributed enough it could give an interesting indication of how often TCP DNS fails compared to UDP DNS. Perhaps the rates are so similar it's a non-issue, perhaps TCP fails much more often. Would it be of interest to the Atlas community to have the probes try and query "." via both UDP and TDP from each of the 13 root servers (perhaps v4 and v6 separately), report back that data, and then generate a report on the results? I would be happy to assist in preparing or presenting a report on the results! -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell(a)ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/

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Fwd: Probe 2317 is down
by Colin Johnston 19 Mar '12

19 Mar '12

hey no idea why probe is down, powered it on and off. defo has comms and dynamic ip also connectivity seems good as well ? Any ideas ? Col Begin forwarded message: > From: RIPE Atlas <atlas(a)ripe.net> > Date: 18 March 2012 14:00:01 GMT > To: colin johnston <colinj(a)mx5.org.uk> > Subject: Probe 2317 is down > > Dear colin, > > Your probe 2317 is down since 2012-03-18 13:11:17 UTC > > This is an automatically generated email from RIPE Atlas. It was sent to you because you asked to be notified if your probe goes is down for more than 30 minutes. > > If you want to change this, or disable this notification altogether, please go to https://atlas.ripe.net/atlas/myprobes.html, click on probe 2317, in the opened tab select Probe's Settings -> Notifications and change your settings. > > Atlas team

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Small changes deployed on this Wednesday
by Robert Kisteleki 16 Mar '12

16 Mar '12

Dear Atlas Users, On Wednesday we've deployed some changes to the UI. The most notable change is that from now on the download format of your probe's measurement data is JSON. The actual syntax is pretty much self-explanatory. The DNS anycast map now visualises server versions and SOA serials too. We made further changes to the way we show static network configuration of a probe on the "probe status" page. We also did some preparations to include Atlas in RIPE NCC Access, the RIPE NCC Single Sign On system. Regards, Robert, for the RIPE Atlas team

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ghostgraz.com
by Simon Josefsson 14 Mar '12

14 Mar '12

I was debugging my local DNS resolver when I noticed peculiar lookups from the Atlas probe for 'ghostgraz.com'. It seems to happen once in a while. Does anyone have any idea what this is? I don't see it in the list of built-in measurements, and I don't recall configuring anything related to that site myself. /Simon 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.732 client 192.168.1.48#58740: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.734 client 192.168.1.48#40389: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.737 client 192.168.1.48#44142: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.740 client 192.168.1.48#59254: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.742 client 192.168.1.48#56991: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.745 client 192.168.1.48#59319: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:36.769 client 192.168.1.48#55435: query: ghostgraz.com IN A + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:56.001 client 192.168.1.48#49742: query: caldwell.atlas.ripe.net IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:55:56.146 client 192.168.1.48#34211: query: caldwell.atlas.ripe.net IN A + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.199 client 192.168.1.48#42327: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.202 client 192.168.1.48#53097: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.204 client 192.168.1.48#54101: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.207 client 192.168.1.48#52439: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.210 client 192.168.1.48#37104: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.212 client 192.168.1.48#59275: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 08:58:38.216 client 192.168.1.48#49299: query: ghostgraz.com IN A + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.778 client 192.168.1.48#58887: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.781 client 192.168.1.48#52689: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.784 client 192.168.1.48#40593: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.787 client 192.168.1.48#51568: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.790 client 192.168.1.48#36493: query: ghostgraz.com IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.792 client 192.168.1.48#33057: query: ghostgraz.com.lan IN AAAA + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:28.796 client 192.168.1.48#49588: query: ghostgraz.com IN A + (192.168.1.47) 14-Mar-2012 09:01:34.977 client 192.168.1.48#35392: query: www.ripe.net IN A + (192.168.1.47)

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probe 466 running unattended
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 05 Mar '12

05 Mar '12

Dear Atlas-Team! I am almost on my way to Costa Rica for the next ICANN meeting, and taking some time off before, and - more extensively :-) - after. Thus my probe at home, #466, may go offline if there's an environmental or ISP-upstream problem, that prevents its automatic recovery. I am scheduled to be back home around the Easter weekend, probably on Sunday, April 8th. Also, the probe in my office, #414, runs unattended during that period, but you are welcome to contact <noc(a)aco.net> for hands and eyes to get it back up, just in case. Best regards, Wilfried.

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Proble rebooting several times a day.
by Lukasz Trabinski 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Hello Why my probe (id 2598, Firmware Version: 4280) rebooting several times a day? My routers and uplinks connections works correctly and stable. Internet Address: Connect at: Disconnect at: Up time: Down time (until next connection): 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-22 08:56:46 UTC (still connected) 0d, 3h, 59m (still connected) 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-22 07:48:06 UTC 2012-02-22 08:53:05 UTC 0d, 1h, 4m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-22 03:50:31 UTC 2012-02-22 07:44:41 UTC 0d, 3h, 54m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-21 17:04:30 UTC 2012-02-22 03:47:02 UTC 0d, 10h, 42m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-21 07:33:19 UTC 2012-02-21 16:57:49 UTC 0d, 9h, 24m 0d, 0h, 6m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-21 04:42:18 UTC 2012-02-21 07:29:42 UTC 0d, 2h, 47m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-20 10:35:17 UTC 2012-02-21 04:35:13 UTC 0d, 17h, 59m 0d, 0h, 7m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-19 14:55:21 UTC 2012-02-20 10:31:40 UTC 0d, 19h, 36m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-19 10:34:47 UTC 2012-02-19 14:51:58 UTC 0d, 4h, 17m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-19 04:35:15 UTC 2012-02-19 10:31:17 UTC 0d, 5h, 56m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-19 01:05:26 UTC 2012-02-19 04:31:43 UTC 0d, 3h, 26m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-18 23:54:45 UTC 2012-02-19 01:01:59 UTC 0d, 1h, 7m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-18 23:02:20 UTC 2012-02-18 23:51:06 UTC 0d, 0h, 48m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-18 22:23:42 UTC 2012-02-18 22:52:58 UTC 0d, 0h, 29m 0d, 0h, 9m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-18 18:55:25 UTC 2012-02-18 22:13:36 UTC 0d, 3h, 18m 0d, 0h, 10m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-18 02:50:04 UTC 2012-02-18 18:51:44 UTC 0d, 16h, 1m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-18 01:02:47 UTC 2012-02-18 02:46:09 UTC 0d, 1h, 43m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-17 19:34:11 UTC 2012-02-18 00:59:04 UTC 0d, 5h, 24m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-17 14:08:25 UTC 2012-02-17 19:30:28 UTC 0d, 5h, 22m 0d, 0h, 3m 2001:1a68:a::56 2012-02-17 13:14:37 UTC 2012-02-17 14:04:52 UTC 0d, 0h, 50m 0d, 0h, 3m

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Port 21
by xs 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

Why probe have port 21 opened? -- Ta wiadomość zawiera poufne informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę, prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. Odmienne zachowanie jest niezgodne z interesem (xs, 1993-2011) i może naruszać prawo.

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