October 2005 - regional-russia

Urgent !!!
by Крылов А.В. 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Dear Sirs! We have received the confirmation of the tax status of Your company for 2005. Due to the tax inspection which is conducted now in OJSC "CenterTelecom", we kindly request You to fax +7 (095) 209 63 80 us as soon as possible the confirmations of tax status for 2002-2003 drawn up in the same way. Thanks for understanding. Sincerely Yours, A. Krylov mailto:krylov@centertelecom.ru

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Re: [regional-russia] CENTERTELECOM (fwd)
by Larisa A. Yurkina 12 Oct '05

12 Oct '05

Dear Jochem, since the question about certified copy of the residence confirmation is interesting to me and some others as far as i know, I've made a translation of your e-mail so that the information could be more clearly understood by people doing agreement with the RIPE NCC here. Thanks for your report, it was really interesting although not entirely indisputable concerning certified copy, I'm afraid :) Добрый день! Привожу ниже перевод письма Jochem de Ruig, присланного в ответ на запрос Александра Крылова (Центртелеком) о необходимости получения от RIPE NCC документа о местонахождении RIPE NCC в Нидерландах, заверенного компетентным органом Нидерландов. В случае непредоставления документа, пишет Александр, Цетртелеком вынужден будет уменьшить сумму оплаты по счету RIPE NCC на сумму, соответствующую налогу на прибыль 20%, в соответствии со статьей 284, п.2 ( Налоговые ставки на доходы иностранных организаций, не связанные с деятельностью в Российской Федерации через постоянное представительство). With respect, Larisa Yurkina --- RIPN Registry center ----- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:12:54 +0200 From: Jochem de Ruig <jochem(a)ripe.net> To: "[iso-8859-1] йПШКНБ[iso-8859-1] ю . [iso-8859-1] б ." <krylov(a)centertelecom.ru>, regional-russia(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [regional-russia] CENTERTELECOM Уважаемые коллеги, произошла задержка с ответом, поскольку я должен был проконсультироваться с нашими юристами, специализирующимися на Российском законодательстве. На Ваш запрос могу сообщить следующее: Как мне сообщили, налог на прибыль с иностранных организаций взимается в двух случаях (Налоговый Кодекс РФ, статья 247) - если иностранная организация осуществляет деятельность в Российской Федерации через постоянное представительство, - если иностранная организация получает доходы от источников в Российской Федерации. RIPE NCC не имеет постоянного представительства в РФ, поскольку "физически" не присутствует в РФ. Все услуги предоставляются из офисов RIPE NCC в Амстердаме. Таким образом, остается налог на прибыль в отношении доходов от источников в Российской Федерации. В статье 309 НК РФ перечислены виды "пассивного" дохода ("passive" income) или дохода каким-либо образом связанного с тем, что является территориально Российским источником, используемым иностранной организацией, и поэтому подлежащего налогообложению в РФ. Поскольку доход RIPE NCC извлекается из услуг, физически реализуемых в Нидерландах, RIPE NCC не попадает в эту категорию, вследствие чего оплата услуг не облагается налогом в РФ и нет необходимости извлекать 20% налог при оплате наших услуг. Все это следует из Российского законодательства как такового (from Russian domestic legislation), без привлечения Соглашения об избежании двойного налогообложения между РФ и Нидерландами. Поэтому мы считаем, что нет необходимости (there is no need) предоставлять Российским налоговым органам заверенную копию документа о местонахождении RIPE NCC на территории Нидерландов (a certified copy of the residence confirmation). Мы понимаем, что этот документ может быть Вам необходим для внутреннего употребления (internal use), поэтому можем предоставить электронную копию документа. В даное время мы работаем над созданием сервиса для Российских клиентов (on-line fact sheet), можем поместить данный документ в Интернете, если в этом есть необходимость. С уважением, Jochem de Ruig RIPE NCC At 05:32 PM 10/4/2005 +0400, йПШКНБ ю.б. wrote: >And here is the official letter sent by our Accounting Department to >RIPE NCC: > >Dear Sirs! > >OJSC "CenterTelecom" sent You the fax ╧ 08-15/219 dated August 24, 2005 >with the request to provide the document, which confirms the permanent >residence >of RIPE NCC on the territory of the Netherlands, besides that You were >informed >about the procedure of issuing and certification of the corresponding document >authenticity by the competent bodies. >However, in response to our fax You have submitted the documents >in the form of uncertified copies, so the documents drawn up this >way don't comply with the Russian Federation tax authorities requirements, >and can't give occasion to the application of the Agreement on Double >Taxation Avoidance. >We kindly request You to inform us as soon as possible if this document >will be filed >to us certified by the competent body of the Netherlands and if it will be >sealed >with appostille. >We would like to inform You once again that if You don't send us in the >near future >the document, confirming the residence of RIPE NCC, drawn up in the proper >way, >than in order to avoid the tax risks, OJSC "CenterTelecom" as a Fiscal >Agent will >have to deduct income tax equal to the rate set in item 2 Article 284 of >the Tax Code of the Russian Federation (in this case the rate is 20%), >so You will receive the income less income tax. > Attachment: letter ╧08-15/219 dated August 24, 2005. > >Yours sincerely, > >First Deputy General Director- >Financial Director ю.ю. Lokotkov > > >Chief Accountant R.P. Konstantinova > > > > > mailto:krylov@centertelecom.ru

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CENTERTELECOM
by Крылов А.В. 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

And here is the official letter sent by our Accounting Department to RIPE NCC: Dear Sirs! OJSC "CenterTelecom" sent You the fax № 08-15/219 dated August 24, 2005 with the request to provide the document, which confirms the permanent residence of RIPE NCC on the territory of the Netherlands, besides that You were informed about the procedure of issuing and certification of the corresponding document authenticity by the competent bodies. However, in response to our fax You have submitted the documents in the form of uncertified copies, so the documents drawn up this way don't comply with the Russian Federation tax authorities requirements, and can't give occasion to the application of the Agreement on Double Taxation Avoidance. We kindly request You to inform us as soon as possible if this document will be filed to us certified by the competent body of the Netherlands and if it will be sealed with appostille. We would like to inform You once again that if You don't send us in the near future the document, confirming the residence of RIPE NCC, drawn up in the proper way, than in order to avoid the tax risks, OJSC "CenterTelecom" as a Fiscal Agent will have to deduct income tax equal to the rate set in item 2 Article 284 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation (in this case the rate is 20%), so You will receive the income less income tax. Attachment: letter №08-15/219 dated August 24, 2005. Yours sincerely, First Deputy General Director- Financial Director А.А. Lokotkov Chief Accountant R.P. Konstantinova mailto:krylov@centertelecom.ru

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4-octet BGP AS numbers
by Alex Zinin 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Folks- To follow up on the 4-octet AS numbers question: the IETF IDR WG has been discussing the proposal documented in draft-ietf-idr-as4bytes-11.txt. The discussion is converging, and a WG Last Call has been started on this document. See the message attached below. It appears that the mechanism has recently been implemented by at least two vendors--Juniper and Redback. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin This is a forwarded message From: Yakov Rekhter <yakov(a)juniper.net> To: idr(a)ietf.org Cc: skh(a)nexthop.com Date: Friday, October 7, 2005, 9:41:41 AM Subject: [Idr] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-idr-as4bytes-11.txt ===8<==============Original message text=============== Folks, This is to start the WG Last Call on advancing draft-ietf-idr-as4bytes-11.txt to a Proposed Standard. The implementation report is draft-huston-idr-as4bytes-survey-00.txt. The Last Call ends Oct 21, 2005. Yakov. _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr(a)ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr ===8<===========End of original message text===========

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(no subject)
by Крылов А.В. 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Здравствуйте, regional-russia. -- С уважением, Крылов mailto:krylov@centertelecom.ru

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CENTERTELECOM
by Крылов А.В. 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Dear Sirs! We represent Russian telecommunication company CenterTelecom (RU.CTC, RU.ELCOM). We have sent you the following fax dated August 24, 2005 (ref. number 08-15/219): Dear Sirs! We would like to remind You once again that for execution of the Agreement on double taxation on value added tax avoidance You should send us a document confirming permanent residence of Your company (RIPE NCC) on the territory of the Netherlands. According to the explanations given by the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands, the confirmation of the permanent residence of the companies-residents of the Netherlands is issued by the inspectors in every local tax authority. And in order to control the authenticity of the issued certificates the following procedure is conducted: - each certificate issued by the local tax inspector of the Netherlands and signed by him is submitted to the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands for legalization; - the legalization of certificates in the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands is conducted by the authorized person; - after the legalization of the certificate in the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands, it is sealed with APPOSTILLE in the judicial authority in Hague. We kindly inform You, that if You don't send us the document drawn up in compliance with the above mentioned procedure, than OJSC "CentarTelecom", as Fiscal Agent paying profit of the foreign company, will have to deduct income tax equal to the rate set in item 2 Article 284 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation (in this case the rate is 20%) and will pay You the income less income tax. In connection with all above mentioned and in order to confirm the lawfulness of income payment to Your company without the deduction of the income tax charged on the territory of the RF, We kindly request You to send us the above mentioned documents for the period of 2002-2004 as soon as possible. In response to our fax we have received from you the copies of two documents (Statement on the tax status of the business, Declaration of residence). Unfortunately, in accordance with the current Russian legislation the copies of these documents should contain the original seal and signature of the tax inspector, that will confirm the authenticity of the above mentioned documents. And, besides the documents for 2005, we also would like to receive from you the same documents for 2002-2004. We kindly request you to send these documents sealed and signed via DHL as soon as possible (DHL services are to be paid by us). Because of the absence of these documents our Accounting Department delayed payments for LIR RU.ELCOM. As soon as we get the documents we will effect all the necessary payments. Thanks for understanding. Sincerely Yours, A. Krylov mailto:krylov@centertelecom.ru

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CENTERTELECOM
by Крылов А.В. 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Dear Sirs! We represent Russian telecommunication company CenterTelecom (RU.CTC, RU.ELCOM). We have sent you the following fax dated August 24, 2005 (ref. number 08-15/219): Dear Sirs! We would like to remind You once again that for execution of the Agreement on double taxation on value added tax avoidance You should send us a document confirming permanent residence of Your company (RIPE NCC) on the territory of the Netherlands. According to the explanations given by the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands, the confirmation of the permanent residence of the companies-residents of the Netherlands is issued by the inspectors in every local tax authority. And in order to control the authenticity of the issued certificates the following procedure is conducted: - each certificate issued by the local tax inspector of the Netherlands and signed by him is submitted to the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands for legalization; - the legalization of certificates in the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands is conducted by the authorized person; - after the legalization of the certificate in the Finance Ministry of the Netherlands, it is sealed with APPOSTILLE in the judicial authority in Hague. We kindly inform You, that if You don't send us the document drawn up in compliance with the above mentioned procedure, than OJSC "CentarTelecom", as Fiscal Agent paying profit of the foreign company, will have to deduct income tax equal to the rate set in item 2 Article 284 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation (in this case the rate is 20%) and will pay You the income less income tax. In connection with all above mentioned and in order to confirm the lawfulness of income payment to Your company without the deduction of the income tax charged on the territory of the RF, We kindly request You to send us the above mentioned documents for the period of 2002-2004 as soon as possible. In response to our fax we have received from you the copies of two documents (Statement on the tax status of the business, Declaration of residence). Unfortunately, in accordance with the current Russian legislation the copies of these documents should contain the original seal and signature of the tax inspector, that will confirm the authenticity of the above mentioned documents. And, besides the documents for 2005, we also would like to receive from you the same documents for 2002-2004. We kindly request you to send these documents sealed and signed via DHL as soon as possible (DHL services are to be paid by us). Because of the absence of these documents our Accounting Department delayed payments for LIR RU.ELCOM. As soon as we get the documents we will effect all the necessary payments. Thanks for understanding. Sincerely Yours, A. Krylov mailto:krylov@centertelecom.ru

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