Dear Rodolfo,

This has been an exceptional situation, and I thank you for your understanding. I recognise the disappointment you and your team must feel with this outcome. 

While we appreciate the potential value of your research and the innovative approach of HoDiNT, the project plan submitted did not align with the specific requirements and capabilities of RIPE Atlas.

I also understand your perspective and disappointment with the decision. However, the selection process for the Community Projects Fund is structured to ensure fairness and consistency for all applicants. Once the selection committee has scored and evaluated all proposals, the decisions are based on the projects as they were initially submitted. Amending your project to address the concerns raised would have essentially created a new proposal, which would not have been possible to review within the framework of the current evaluation process.

Your project has highlighted areas where we can improve our review process for the fund. This has given us important food for thought on how to ensure such considerations are addressed earlier in the process. 

If you would like to discuss the technical constraints that prevent your project from using RIPE Atlas, the team is available, and I would be happy to help coordinate a meeting for you. 

Best regards,
Alastair

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 at 14:13, Rodolfo García Peñas (kix) <kix@kix.es> wrote:
Hello,

I would like to congratulate all the projects selected by the Community Projects Fund. I also wish to express my gratitude to the organising committee for initially selecting our project, 'RIPE Atlas distributed network telescope'.

I am currently engaged in doctoral research on IBR traffic, and together with my supervisory team, we have proposed this project. We saw this as an ideal opportunity for the community to collect IBR traffic and make it available. We currently have a small working network of sensors (HoDiNT, Home Distributed Network Telescope [1]) and our objective is to extend the network and have RIPE manage the traffic collected. The HoDiNT sensors receive IBR traffic forwarded from the home connection router and forward it to a collector for analysis. They are fully compatible with Atlas sensors. This would enrich the traffic of other research centres, such as CAIDA or Merrit, and offer other students and research centres the possibility of having IBR traffic available for analysis.

I was delighted that our project was selected, but a few hours later the organisation sent us an email stating that the RIPE Atlas team had raised some concerns about our proposal which may impact our ability to receive funding. We were requested to attend a meeting with the organisation and the RIPE Atlas team to discuss the proposal a few days later. The meeting was unfortunately not attended by a representative of RIPE Atlas. We were informed that the project was not deemed feasible. I would like to thank Alastair, who had to pass on the news to us, which is not an easy situation.

I accept the decision taken, although I do not agree with either the substance or the form. I think we should have been given the opportunity to reformulate the project, maintaining the original objective but circumventing the limitations exposed. We will continue to improve HoDiNT in order to make it available to the community as soon as possible. If anyone is interested in contributing to the project, improving the code (mainly Python) and/or hosting sensors, please contact us. Due to limited resources, it is not possible to add sensors to the network openly, and we are doing so with sensors from colleagues and friends whom we thank for their time and resources.

Regards,
Rodolfo.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S138912862400402X
[2] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VGJ4PEcf-kHtFVT7rsXd9QYDqRL6rGH6/view?usp=sharing
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Rodolfo García Peñas (kix)
http://www.kix.es/

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On Friday, November 15th, 2024 at 14:18, Marcos Sanz via opensource-wg <opensource-wg@ripe.net> wrote:

> FYI. Sorry for the cross-posting.
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Alastair Strachan projectsfund@ripe.net
> > Enviado el: jueves, 14 de noviembre de 2024 12:55
> > Para: ripe-list@ripe.net
> > Asunto: [ripe-list] Update on the Community Projects Fund 2024
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > After the announcement of this year’s Community Projects Fund recipients,
> > some challenges emerged with the RIPE Atlas distributed network telescope
> > project which would have prevented the project from achieving the goals
> > outlined in the project plan.
> >
> > After careful consideration, the Selection Committee made the difficult
> > decision to withdraw funding for the project. While we understand this is
> > really disappointing for the recipients, we sincerely hope they will continue
> > initiatives that bring value to our community and the Internet.
> >
> > The Selection Committee has now chosen another project to support from our
> > pool of finalists: OpenPenny - An open-source tool to identify non-spoofed
> > traffic. You can read about the project on the Community Projects Fund 2024
> > page:
> > https://www.ripe.net/community/community-initiatives/cpf/previous-
> > funding-recipients/funding-recipients-2024/
> > <https://www.ripe.net/community/community-initiatives/cpf/previous-
> > funding-recipients/funding-recipients-2024/>
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Alastair Strachan
> > Community Projects Fund Coordinator
>
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