NCC Services WG Chair Selection
Hi all, As per the adopted NCC Services WG Chair Selection process, this time round Kurtis’s position will be up for selection. Following the Chair Selection Process, this email starts a two week period call for candidates. If you are interested in standing for selection, please announce to the mailing list and please read the description and responsibilities of a RIPE working group Chair, RIPE-542 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-542, feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Bijal Sanghani
On 1 Sep 2017, at 09:04, Bijal Sanghani <bijal@euro-ix.net> wrote:
As per the adopted NCC Services WG Chair Selection process, this time round Kurtis’s position will be up for selection. Following the Chair Selection Process, this email starts a two week period call for candidates.
If you are interested in standing for selection, please announce to the mailing list and please read the description and responsibilities of a RIPE working group Chair, RIPE-542 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-542, feel free to let me know if you have any questions.
I am happy to continue as WG chair. Best Regards, - kurtis -
Hi, On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 08:44:46AM +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
I am happy to continue as WG chair.
You have my support :-) - nobody else can talk fast enough to finish in time. (But besides this - you've done a good job for a long time, and if you are still willing to take the burden, you're definitely qualified :-) ) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Kurtis has my support too, and I certainly know about the talking fast which ensures it finishes on time ;) That said, should we be looking at term limits etc in the future, to allow new blood to come forward too? All too easy for newcomers not to put themselves forward when more experienced people and those doing it for years are still up for the task. Regards Denesh
On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:18, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 08:44:46AM +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: I am happy to continue as WG chair.
You have my support :-) - nobody else can talk fast enough to finish in time.
(But besides this - you've done a good job for a long time, and if you are still willing to take the burden, you're definitely qualified :-) )
Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Hi,
That said, should we be looking at term limits etc in the future, to allow new blood to come forward too? All too easy for newcomers not to put themselves forward when more experienced people and those doing it for years are still up for the task.
This isn’t specific to NCC services, and it is a subject that was discussed within the collective of working group chairpeople when I was on it (and no doubt has been since, too). I can see the benefits of a term limit, but I can also see risks — I’d be curious to know if people have been discouraged from standing because an ‘establishment figure’ is in the frame? We have started so see some churn, for example there are relatively new chairs in the Co-operation, Database, DNS, IPv6 and Routing working groups, so I’m not sure there’s a problem at the moment. I’d also point out that there isn’t much opportunity for an ‘abuse of power’ as the chairperson of a working group, so I think the risk is at most stagnation of a group, and that’s something the participants can always fix by doing something (at which point, a new chairperson might make themselves evident). Cheers, Rob
On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:30, Denesh Bhabuta <dblists@icloud.com> wrote:
That said, should we be looking at term limits etc in the future, to allow new blood to come forward too? All too easy for newcomers not to put themselves forward when more experienced people and those doing it for years are still up for the task.
Hi Denesh. I agree that term limits are a good thing, largely for the reasons you've outlined. [It also helps to have a healthy turnover in the leadership from time to time.] However the WG did not make provision for this in its chair appointment process. I don't know (or care) why it did that: presumably there were good reasons for reaching consensus on that process. It would probably be unwise to revisit the WG chair appointment process given the potential for shed-painting and rat-holing. If it's not broken, don't "fix" it. I would like to think we can trust the WG leadership to know when they'd overstayed their welcome and to step aside in an orderly manner. I did that in the DNS WG even though that WG's process does have provision for term limits.
+ 1 -----Original Message----- From: ncc-services-wg [mailto:ncc-services-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: 5. syyskuuta 2017 14:19 To: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> Cc: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net; Bijal Sanghani <bijal@euro-ix.net> Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] NCC Services WG Chair Selection Hi, On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 08:44:46AM +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
I am happy to continue as WG chair.
You have my support :-) - nobody else can talk fast enough to finish in time. (But besides this - you've done a good job for a long time, and if you are still willing to take the burden, you're definitely qualified :-) ) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
participants (8)
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Bijal Sanghani -
Denesh Bhabuta -
Gert Doering -
Janos Zsako -
Jetten Raymond -
Jim Reid -
Kurt Erik Lindqvist -
Rob Evans