NCC staff representation at RIPE meetings
Hi everbody, I'm not quite sure where to raise this issue but here might be somewhere to start. I noticed a couple of RIPE meetings ago that the NCC staff representaion seemed smaller than usual and when talking to those attending they said that they had hear it did not look good with all these people around. Well, my opinion is that RIPE meetings is about the only time to meet the staff in person, which is a good reason to attend. And also, if I have to pay for this number of staff, the RIPE meetings is a chance to actually see them at work. If it "does not look good", then maybe we should consider staff numbers all together. I realise there are travel expenses etc. but it would be interesting to see some figures. I doubt it comes anywhere near i.e. the Atlas project to have a couple more staff around. Best Regards, Daniel Stolpe _________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel Stolpe Tel: 08 - 688 11 81 stolpe@resilans.se Resilans AB Fax: 08 - 55 00 21 63 http://www.resilans.se/ Box 13 054 556741-1193 103 02 Stockholm
Hi, On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 05:16:41PM +0100, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
Well, my opinion is that RIPE meetings is about the only time to meet the staff in person, which is a good reason to attend. And also, if I have to pay for this number of staff, the RIPE meetings is a chance to actually see them at work. If it "does not look good", then maybe we should consider staff numbers all together.
Strongly seconded. I do also consider it one of the major benefits of a RIPE meeting to meet RIPE NCC staff in person, and to actually know who I'm talking to, next time I'm in a mail exchange with hostmaster@ripe.net... Also it helps the NCC staff to get a feeling for "real life" to be able to talk to people over coffee. Gert Doering -- RIPE member since many years -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Where it's Amsterdam, I'm wholly in agreement. The marginal cost of additional staff is minimal. However, we've had complaints (just vague coffee-break things, nothing formal) about too many RIPE NCC staff at RIPE meetings. As Gert knows, trying to satisfy everyone isn't possible and we try to balance the "keep the staff to a minimum" and "let's have lots of staff there" points of view. If we get the feeling that people want more staff at the meetings then we can ask the NCC to send more staff. It's your organisation, after all. Nigel -----Original Message----- From: ncc-services-wg-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:ncc-services-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: 26 February 2013 16:24 To: Daniel Stolpe Cc: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] NCC staff representation at RIPE meetings Hi, On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 05:16:41PM +0100, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
Well, my opinion is that RIPE meetings is about the only time to meet the staff in person, which is a good reason to attend. And also, if I have to pay for this number of staff, the RIPE meetings is a chance to actually see them at work. If it "does not look good", then maybe we should consider staff numbers all together.
Strongly seconded. I do also consider it one of the major benefits of a RIPE meeting to meet RIPE NCC staff in person, and to actually know who I'm talking to, next time I'm in a mail exchange with hostmaster@ripe.net... Also it helps the NCC staff to get a feeling for "real life" to be able to talk to people over coffee. Gert Doering -- RIPE member since many years -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
2013-02-26 17:28, Nigel Titley skrev:
Where it's Amsterdam, I'm wholly in agreement. The marginal cost of additional staff is minimal.
However, we've had complaints (just vague coffee-break things, nothing formal) about too many RIPE NCC staff at RIPE meetings. As Gert knows, trying to satisfy everyone isn't possible and we try to balance the "keep the staff to a minimum" and "let's have lots of staff there" points of view. If we get the feeling that people want more staff at the meetings then we can ask the NCC to send more staff. It's your organisation, after all.
And to add to the general feeling that there are too few staff at the meetings. I have seen over the last RIPE meetings NCC staff who are so busy that they do not have time for a pint of Guinness in the evening. And that ladies and gentlemen is NOT good. There's always time for a pint of Guinness. /bengan
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Bengt Gördén -
Daniel Stolpe -
Gert Doering -
Nigel Titley