Re: [ncc-services-wg] UA IP transfer
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r... "They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company." https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto:
Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише: > Hi all! > before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear > who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community. > > Registry ID: ua.webpro > > We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to > temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are > sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for > theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders. > > > > > _______________ > Best regards, > Olena Kushnir > +38(097)748-33-33 > www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua> <http://www.webpro.ua> > > >
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On 28 Oct 2022, at 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else
Regular fake news. Like all other news from Ukraine or about Ukraine. Like Bucha, Mariupol, Zaporogne Nuclear plant...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto: Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише:
Hi all! before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community.
Registry ID: ua.webpro
We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders.
_______________ Best regards, Olena Kushnir +38(097)748-33-33 www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
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— Serg Galat
On 10/28/2022 2:58 AM, Serg Galat wrote:
On 28 Oct 2022, at 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else
Regular fake news. Like all other news from Ukraine or about Ukraine. Like Bucha, Mariupol, Zaporogne Nuclear plant...
Serg what exactly is fake in the news? I hope I've just misunderstood you.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto: Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише:
Hi all! before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community.
Registry ID: ua.webpro
We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders.
_______________ Best regards, Olena Kushnir +38(097)748-33-33 www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
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Russian propaganda says Bucha, Irpin and other war crimes of Russia is just a "Fake news". 28.10.22 10:29, Vitaly Zubok пише:
On 10/28/2022 2:58 AM, Serg Galat wrote:
On 28 Oct 2022, at 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else
Regular fake news. Like all other news from Ukraine or about Ukraine. Like Bucha, Mariupol, Zaporogne Nuclear plant...
Serg what exactly is fake in the news? I hope I've just misunderstood you.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto: Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише:
Hi all! before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community.
Registry ID: ua.webpro
We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders.
_______________ Best regards, Olena Kushnir +38(097)748-33-33 www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
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Dear Vitaly,
On 28 Oct 2022, at 10:29, Vitaly Zubok <vit@visti.net> wrote:
On 10/28/2022 2:58 AM, Serg Galat wrote:
On 28 Oct 2022, at 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else Regular fake news. Like all other news from Ukraine or about Ukraine. Like Bucha, Mariupol, Zaporogne Nuclear plant...
Serg what exactly is fake in the news? I hope I've just misunderstood you.
It was irony.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto: Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише:
Hi all! before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community.
Registry ID: ua.webpro
We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders.
_______________ Best regards, Olena Kushnir +38(097)748-33-33 www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
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I'm very sorry then :( It didn't look as irony... 28.10.22 17:50, Serg Galat пише:
Dear Vitaly,
On 28 Oct 2022, at 10:29, Vitaly Zubok <vit@visti.net> wrote:
On 10/28/2022 2:58 AM, Serg Galat wrote:
On 28 Oct 2022, at 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else Regular fake news. Like all other news from Ukraine or about Ukraine. Like Bucha, Mariupol, Zaporogne Nuclear plant...
Serg what exactly is fake in the news? I hope I've just misunderstood you.
It was irony.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto: Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише:
Hi all! before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community.
Registry ID: ua.webpro
We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders.
_______________ Best regards, Olena Kushnir +38(097)748-33-33 www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
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You can try to visit Bucha again and see it yourself. We have a lot of nice big black plastic bags for such visitors... 28.10.22 02:58, Serg Galat пише:
On 28 Oct 2022, at 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else
Regular fake news. Like all other news from Ukraine or about Ukraine. Like Bucha, Mariupol, Zaporogne Nuclear plant...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto: Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише:
Hi all! before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community.
Registry ID: ua.webpro
We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders.
_______________ Best regards, Olena Kushnir +38(097)748-33-33 www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
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Sure. But this is about the physic interconnect, not about forced IPv4 transfer. In any way, until NCC accepts "documents" from occupied territories such as DPR or russian Crimea, implementing ban on _Ukrainian_ nets would not help to protect people there in any way. 28.10.22 02:31, Claudio Ferronato via ncc-services-wg пише:
When I read it, it looked plausible. I don't know if it was propaganda, fake news or what else
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/09/technology/ukraine-internet-r...
"They came to them and put guns to their head and just said, 'Do this,'" said Maxim Smelyanets, who owns an internet provider that operates in the area and is based in Kyiv. "They did that step by step for each company."
https://www.kentik.com/blog/rerouting-of-kherson-follows-familiar-gameplan/
Il gio 27 ott 2022, 18:14 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> ha scritto:
Once again, Elena.
Could you please show any proof of any theft? Even gossips about it?
NONE.
27.10.22 19:10, Олена Кушнір пише: > Hi all! > before writing any thoughts here, write your RegID so that it is clear > who you represent. are related to the Ukrainian LIR community. > > Registry ID: ua.webpro > > We are the member of Internet association of Ukraine, We ask you to > temporarily freeze IR transfers from the territory of Ukraine. We are > sure that this will make IP resources of UA holders not attractive for > theft and transfer and therefore will protect its holders. > > > > > _______________ > Best regards, > Olena Kushnir > +38(097)748-33-33 > www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua> <http://www.webpro.ua> > > >
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Vitaly Zubok