Same here, no transfers. And it’s strange, no problems for members and payments from “Occupied territories” or Russia, so all troubles for Ukrainian LIRs only. On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 14:31, Max Tulyev <president@ukraine.su> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm writing about Ukrainian IP transfers again.

During the last RIPE meeting we have figured out there is NO consensus about freezing all transfers of Ukrainian resources. But in fact this freeze was implemented by RIPE NCC staff. There was no transfers since that time, and hostmasters tells "we are still waiting for decision of RIPE NCC management in regards to the Ukrainian transfers".

This means Ukrainian companies depending on that transfers can not fulfill their obligations to contractors because of RIPE NCC. This also means they will have to pay fines to contractors as well.

Also I'm afraid if transfers will not be executed until the end of December, some companies wishes to close their LIRs after the transfer will be pushed to pay a next year payment to NCC.

And all of that is for our members are in financial distress because of the war.

It means the current RIPE NCC staff do not rely anymore on community, as the ban was implemented in the situation of no community consensus, but under the pressure of doubtful government representatives.

So, do we really want to have that RIPE(NCC)?

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Good evening My transfers stopped too I am outraged Ripe absolutely knows everything from his LIR accounts many want to transfer networks for one reason or another why is this not happening now? -----Original Message----- From: ncc-services-wg [mailto:ncc-services-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 3:31 PM To: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Ukrainian transfers Hi All, I'm writing about Ukrainian IP transfers again. During the last RIPE meeting we have figured out there is NO consensus about freezing all transfers of Ukrainian resources. But in fact this freeze was implemented by RIPE NCC staff. There was no transfers since that time, and hostmasters tells "we are still waiting for decision of RIPE NCC management in regards to the Ukrainian transfers". This means Ukrainian companies depending on that transfers can not fulfill their obligations to contractors because of RIPE NCC. This also means they will have to pay fines to contractors as well. Also I'm afraid if transfers will not be executed until the end of December, some companies wishes to close their LIRs after the transfer will be pushed to pay a next year payment to NCC. And all of that is for our members are in financial distress because of the war. It means the current RIPE NCC staff do not rely anymore on community, as the ban was implemented in the situation of no community consensus, but under the pressure of doubtful government representatives. So, do we really want to have that RIPE(NCC)? -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg