NCC Services WG Chairs
Dear WG, As you might have seen, I have decided to run for the RIPE NCC board as a candidate. Naturally, if I get elected this would not be compatible with my current role as chair of the NCC Services WG and I commit to resigning from the position as WG chair if elected to the RIPE NCC board. I have discussed with Bijal as co-chair what the process would be after this. We both feel that the workload is low enough that she could continue as WG chair until the following RIPE meeting in the fall, when a new co-chair would be selected to replace me. It is worth noting that Bijal is also up for reselection at the same meeting, but she is wiling to continue for another term. Kurtis & Bijal
On 5 Apr 2019, at 08:16, Kurtis Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> wrote:
We both feel that the workload is low enough that she could continue as WG chair until the following RIPE meeting in the fall, when a new co-chair would be selected to replace me. It is worth noting that Bijal is also up for reselection at the same meeting, but she is wiling to continue for another term.
Kurtis, thanks for doing the right thing by avoiding any perception of a conflict of interest. The suggested course of action wrt co-chair appointments is poor. Sorry. First, while the workload may be low, the plan means Bijal becomes a SPoF for a while. What if she has other commitments in the run up to RIPE79 or can’t get a Brexit visa for the Netherlands? [Yes, I am painfully aware the IoT WG has the self-same problem. Though that will be fixed this month.] A bigger concern is appointing two co-chairs at the same time means that WG loses the benefit of staggered terms. And would presumably be stuck with that situation forever. That needs to be addressed. Could you and Bijal suggest some way to get round that problem? Obligatory rant against vile Americanisms: the season after summer is called autumn, not the fall. :-)
Jim,
On 5 Apr 2019, at 12:28, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
Kurtis, thanks for doing the right thing by avoiding any perception of a conflict of interest.
The suggested course of action wrt co-chair appointments is poor. Sorry. First, while the workload may be low, the plan means Bijal becomes a SPoF for a while. What if she has other commitments in the run up to RIPE79 or can’t get a Brexit visa for the Netherlands? [Yes, I am painfully aware the IoT WG has the self-same problem. Though that will be fixed this month.] A bigger concern is appointing two co-chairs at the same time means that WG loses the benefit of staggered terms. And would presumably be stuck with that situation forever. That needs to be addressed. Could you and Bijal suggest some way to get round that problem?
Thank you for this. Me and Bijal have been discussing this and given the WG Chair Selection process (https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/services/ripe-ncc-services-wg-chair...) we are a bit limited. While it is true the selection process is meant to be light it does represent the consensus of the WG. One thing we did discuss was a “temporary” WG chair that would be selected at the next meeting and have a term until the autumn meeting unless I was a successful candidate. However, that is not how the process is written. Taking your points, and following the process me and Bijal agreed that calling for a third WG chair is the best way forward, to be selected before the Reykjavik RIPE meeting. This means that I will be sending out the call for volunteers shortly and the two week period for showing interest, and following the two week discussion period. If I am elected to the RIPE NCC board, the new chair and Bijal will continue and there will be a new selection in the fall for Bijal’s position. If I am not elected to the RIPE NCC board, we continue with three chairs at least until the autumn when we hold a new selection unless anything changes in the mean time. Best regards, Kurtis & Bijal / NCC Services WG Chairs
On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:59, Kurtis Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> wrote:
Taking your points, and following the process me and Bijal agreed that calling for a third WG chair is the best way forward, to be selected before the Reykjavik RIPE meeting.
This means that I will be sending out the call for volunteers shortly and the two week period for showing interest, and following the two week discussion period. If I am elected to the RIPE NCC board, the new chair and Bijal will continue and there will be a new selection in the fall for Bijal’s position. If I am not elected to the RIPE NCC board, we continue with three chairs at least until the autumn when we hold a new selection unless anything changes in the mean time.
Fine by me Kurtis. Thanks to both you and Bijal for addressing my concerns.
Hi, On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 03:05:53PM +0100, Jim Reid wrote:
Fine by me Kurtis. Thanks to both you and Bijal for addressing my concerns.
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