Re: [ncc-services-wg] Update of RIPE NCC Procedural Document and Transfer Agreement Template
On Sat, 20 May 2023 11:43:19 +0200 Олена Кушнір <kea@webpro.net.ua> wrote:
Good day, All/Max There is no need for fairy tales about 5 thousand euros for a court decision.
That is not a fairy tale, I said also "or just for free, if you have enough political resource", like in your master's case.
I am categorically against this proposal 2.2, because in this case, those from whom the IP resources were stolen will NEVER GET THEM BACK. And what then is justice?
But yes, you are right. In the case resource was stealed, it should be returned back to the legal owner. The question is how to figure out it was stealed and it is not a seller's fraud. Any ideas? -- Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua>
Dear All/Max I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to address the concerns you raised regarding the subjective assessment of Ukraine's legal field and its impact on our collective goal of protecting the IP resources of our members. It is essential to foster an environment where open dialogue and constructive engagement can lead to positive outcomes for all parties involved. I sincerely regret that you had a negative experience in the legal field of Ukraine. But subjective evaluations from someone whose company netassist was deprived its license due to violations with current legislation cannot be true enough. Compliance with legal requirements is actually very important in a civilized country and it is in the interest of our community to ensure that these all rules are followed. In line with our commitment to protecting IP resources, we must remain vigilant and proactive. It is our shared responsibility to safeguard the integrity and security of these resources, and we must do everything within our power to uphold this objective. Thank you for your attention to this issue. Best regards, Olena Kushnir WEB PRO LLC
20 трав. 2023 р. о 16:01 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> пише:
On Sat, 20 May 2023 11:43:19 +0200 Олена Кушнір <kea@webpro.net.ua> wrote:
Good day, All/Max There is no need for fairy tales about 5 thousand euros for a court decision.
That is not a fairy tale, I said also "or just for free, if you have enough political resource", like in your master's case.
I am categorically against this proposal 2.2, because in this case, those from whom the IP resources were stolen will NEVER GET THEM BACK. And what then is justice?
But yes, you are right. In the case resource was stealed, it should be returned back to the legal owner. The question is how to figure out it was stealed and it is not a seller's fraud. Any ideas?
-- Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua>
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Dear Olena, yes, the case of one of mine companies is one of them. I will publish all details about this later, with all papers, court audio records, etc. The law that enable ukrainian telecom regulator to make that decision against the company was adopted three months later after the decision was made. And it is ok for the court. As well as the regulator representative told the judge the decision was made because of my position against the censorship before the war, i.e. it was just the political reprisal. But why me, take a look on the Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_of_Ukraine And now *YOU* are going to represent that system in the RIPE NCC executive board. Good luck! On Sun, 21 May 2023 15:57:35 +0200 Олена Кушнір <kea@webpro.net.ua> wrote:
Dear All/Max
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to address the concerns you raised regarding the subjective assessment of Ukraine's legal field and its impact on our collective goal of protecting the IP resources of our members. It is essential to foster an environment where open dialogue and constructive engagement can lead to positive outcomes for all parties involved.
I sincerely regret that you had a negative experience in the legal field of Ukraine. But subjective evaluations from someone whose company netassist was deprived its license due to violations with current legislation cannot be true enough. Compliance with legal requirements is actually very important in a civilized country and it is in the interest of our community to ensure that these all rules are followed.
In line with our commitment to protecting IP resources, we must remain vigilant and proactive. It is our shared responsibility to safeguard the integrity and security of these resources, and we must do everything within our power to uphold this objective.
Thank you for your attention to this issue.
Best regards, Olena Kushnir WEB PRO LLC
20 трав. 2023 р. о 16:01 Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> пише:
On Sat, 20 May 2023 11:43:19 +0200 Олена Кушнір <kea@webpro.net.ua> wrote:
Good day, All/Max There is no need for fairy tales about 5 thousand euros for a court decision.
That is not a fairy tale, I said also "or just for free, if you have enough political resource", like in your master's case.
I am categorically against this proposal 2.2, because in this case, those from whom the IP resources were stolen will NEVER GET THEM BACK. And what then is justice?
But yes, you are right. In the case resource was stealed, it should be returned back to the legal owner. The question is how to figure out it was stealed and it is not a seller's fraud. Any ideas?
-- Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua>
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-- Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua>
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