Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-07 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
Hello. I went to read the Impact Analysis just this afternoon, and was shocked at the incomplete and confusing state of the relevant pages on the RIPE NCC web site. I feel it's appropriate to call "false start" on the current Review Phase, and to have the clock re-started when these pages have been put right. Three versions of the proposal have been announced: v1.0 on 27 Aug 2012, v2.0 on 24 Jan 2013, and v3.0 on 25 Apr 2013 (by Marco's message quoted and commented on below). On 25 Apr 2013, at 14:38, Marco Schmidt wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-07, "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders" has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published
You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at:
This is dated 27 Aug 2012. The status panel to the right identifies it as v1.0. Under "all versions", only version 1.0 of 27 Aug 2012 is listed. The text shown is that of v2.0, anounced 24 Jan 2013. The Impact Analysis is also shown here, dated "March 2013" (without a specific day). This analysis does not identify which version of the proposal was used as its basis.
and the draft document at:
This is still dated 27 Aug 2012. The status panel shows the same version information and date as mentioned above. The text shown here is that of v3.0, submitted on 08 Mar 2013 and (as agreed: see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2013-April/002289.htm...) held for publication until the NCC's Impact Analysis would be ready. The Impact Analysis is not shown here.
We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to ncc-services-wg@ripe.net before 23 May 2013.
I encourage people to wait until the supporting material is arranged so as to facilitate their efforts, and look to the RIPE NCC to give this urgent attention. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly
Dear Niall, Thank you for the notification. As you point out, the publication of version 3.0 resulted in an incorrect update. We apologise for the error and the confusion this caused. We are working to resolve this as soon as possible. We are also investigating the reasons this happened to ensure nothing similar happens again. In order to allow a complete and proper policy proposal discussion, we will publish the correct policy proposal version and the additional documentation (draft policy and impact analysis). We will shortly announce the beginning of a new Review Phase. If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Best regards, Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC On May 3, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Niall O'Reilly <niall.oreilly@ucd.ie> wrote:
Hello.
I went to read the Impact Analysis just this afternoon, and was shocked at the incomplete and confusing state of the relevant pages on the RIPE NCC web site.
I feel it's appropriate to call "false start" on the current Review Phase, and to have the clock re-started when these pages have been put right.
Three versions of the proposal have been announced:
v1.0 on 27 Aug 2012, v2.0 on 24 Jan 2013, and v3.0 on 25 Apr 2013 (by Marco's message quoted and commented on below).
On 25 Apr 2013, at 14:38, Marco Schmidt wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-07, "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders" has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published
You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at:
This is dated 27 Aug 2012. The status panel to the right identifies it as v1.0. Under "all versions", only version 1.0 of 27 Aug 2012 is listed.
The text shown is that of v2.0, anounced 24 Jan 2013.
The Impact Analysis is also shown here, dated "March 2013" (without a specific day). This analysis does not identify which version of the proposal was used as its basis.
and the draft document at:
This is still dated 27 Aug 2012. The status panel shows the same version information and date as mentioned above.
The text shown here is that of v3.0, submitted on 08 Mar 2013 and (as agreed: see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2013-April/002289.htm...) held for publication until the NCC's Impact Analysis would be ready.
The Impact Analysis is not shown here.
We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to ncc-services-wg@ripe.net before 23 May 2013.
I encourage people to wait until the supporting material is arranged so as to facilitate their efforts, and look to the RIPE NCC to give this urgent attention.
Best regards, Niall O'Reilly
On 6 May 2013, at 12:59, Emilio Madaio wrote:
Thank you for the notification.
As you point out, the publication of version 3.0 resulted in an incorrect update.
We apologise for the error and the confusion this caused. We are working to resolve this as soon as possible. We are also investigating the reasons this happened to ensure nothing similar happens again.
In order to allow a complete and proper policy proposal discussion, we will publish the correct policy proposal version and the additional documentation (draft policy and impact analysis).
We will shortly announce the beginning of a new Review Phase.
If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
Thanks, Emilio, for the prompt and appropriate remedial action. Best regards, Niall
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