Transfers from Ukraine, how to ideed protect resource holders
On behalf of UA.VISTI (LIR est. 1997, Kyiv, Ukraine) I have to tell that we can't support neither banning of IP transfers from Ukrasinian LIRs nor including any UA Government institution into process of transfer approval. In our opinion them cannot serve the aim declared by authors of such initiatives. Instead, taking onto account the Russian aggression and that there are Ukrainian territories _temporarily_ occupied by enemy forces which widely use terror and robbery, RIPE NCC should consider additional due diligence procedures approving transfers from Ukrainian LIRs. These procedures should be discussed, but they should remain possible in our realities. The disclaimer about possibility of transfer reversion offered in [Protecting Resource Holders in Distressed Areas] seems reasonable, however bona fide buyers might avoid additional risk of such situation and choose not to deal with UA IP address blocks. What would be offered instead: transfer request might be precessed by several-step verification, and one of the steps, for example, might include geolocation verification of the person submitting the request (presuming that there are definitely non-occupied and non-combat areas where Ukrainian governance carried out in full, so such person is not unburdened by the circumstances of the war). Regards, Vitaly Zubok Deputy Director ELVSITI Information Center Kyiv, Ukraine +380442399091 http://visti.net
I support this. 27.10.22 20:58, Vitaly Zubok пише:
On behalf of UA.VISTI (LIR est. 1997, Kyiv, Ukraine) I have to tell that we can't support neither banning of IP transfers from Ukrasinian LIRs nor including any UA Government institution into process of transfer approval. In our opinion them cannot serve the aim declared by authors of such initiatives.
Instead, taking onto account the Russian aggression and that there are Ukrainian territories _temporarily_ occupied by enemy forces which widely use terror and robbery, RIPE NCC should consider additional due diligence procedures approving transfers from Ukrainian LIRs.
These procedures should be discussed, but they should remain possible in our realities. The disclaimer about possibility of transfer reversion offered in [Protecting Resource Holders in Distressed Areas] seems reasonable, however bona fide buyers might avoid additional risk of such situation and choose not to deal with UA IP address blocks.
What would be offered instead: transfer request might be precessed by several-step verification, and one of the steps, for example, might include geolocation verification of the person submitting the request (presuming that there are definitely non-occupied and non-combat areas where Ukrainian governance carried out in full, so such person is not unburdened by the circumstances of the war).
Regards, Vitaly Zubok Deputy Director
ELVSITI Information Center Kyiv, Ukraine +380442399091 http://visti.net
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