At 11:17 AM +0200 2003/09/10, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
So doing that may lead to a situation where the RIPE NCC membership ends up paying the whole bill. I would actually like that because it makes the measurements even more independent and I would not have to invest time into making agreements with the TLD admins, billing, etc. pp.
But is this acceptable to the RIPE NCC memebrship in the long run?
Comments please!
I'm not a paying member of RIPE NCC, so my views don't count. However, I would like to see this sort of monitoring extended by RIPE NCC to all available TLDs, paid for by RIPE NCC. Indeed, I am moving closer to having my own co-lo, and once I do I plan on setting up my own monitoring tools for all TLDs, for my own purposes. I'll probably extend that to sharing lame delegation data with Rob Thomas, etc.... If you are concerned about the cost, you could place a copyright on the collected data so that re-use for RIPE NCC members does not incur an additional charge, and perhaps allow academic re-use by non-RIPE NCC members to likewise be without fee, but for-profit non-RIPE NCC members would be required to contact you first and arrange to pay a fee if they wanted to reuse the data or the results. At that point, it basically comes down to how much enforcement of the copyright you would want to participate in, and how you could make the fee payment scheme at least cover its own administrative costs. -- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)