Hi, On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:40:32AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
This seems odd. I can't seem to find any mention of charging for bulk whois access in the RIPE NCC AGM or the PDP.
the ncc _seems_ to have taken upon itself, with no public mandate or bottom up process, to incrementally make the nic a members only organization. as the nics are here to serve the internet, this is a major change. if the ncc is not here to serve the internet, then we may need to rethink how we handle internet coordination.
somemthing smells very broken here. maybe we are just misinformed.
Indeed. I can see the wish to simplify the structure by merging all sorts of contracts "users that pay money for NCC services" into a single bin, labeled "paying members" (like dnsmon, etc) - and I would not object to that. RIPE DB NRTM mirrors(!) have been mentioned to fall under that category as well. OTOH, "proxy whois service" usage never had a price tag, so I find it surprising that this would be part of the "everything that has a price tag needs to be a member now" clause... Anyone from the NCC around who is willing to clarify this? thanks, Gert Doering -- hat wrangler -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279