At 12:16 24/08/2012 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
I believe if you did an analysis of the 3000 allocations, you would find that many (my estimate - over 1700) are academic allocations and
On 24 Aug 2012, at 08:25, Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote: those NRENs are all paying members of RIPE NCC. And they have probably been paying members far longer than 99.9% of the RIPE membership (Janet, Renater, GARR, Surfnet, SWITCH, IUCC, etc.).
Hank,
Are these address blocks registered to the academic institutions or to the nrens? If they are registered as being assigned directly to the institutions, I'm not sure why it's relevant that the nrens are paying members of the ripe ncc when comparing this situation to the arin LRSA.
Based on mnt-by, the # of ERX address blocks managed by the top 11 NRENs in Europe: AS786 278 JOM12-RIPE operations@ja.net AS2200 257 GR1378-RIPE RenSVP@Renater.fr AS680 216 DUMY-RIPE no-email [DFN] AS137 166 EV182-RIPE Enzo.Valente@garr.it AS1103 119 SNS1-RIPE netmaster@surfnet.nl AS559 115 WH1101 huber@switch.ch AS696 45 WH1101 huber@switch.ch AS766 32 ER494-RIPE esther.robles@rediris.es AS1101 32 WB311-RIPE Wim.Biemolt@surfnet.nl AS1853 23 AA7477-RIPE admin@aco.net AS378 20 HN293-RIPE hank@efes.iucc.ac.il -Hank
If they are registered to the nrens rather than the academic institutions then I can see that there would be a valid comparison here, which could be relevant if the ripe community were to agree that an arin style LRSA would be an appropriate means of resolving this situation.
Nick