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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (Yuri Varenitsa)
2. Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs
(pavel@hostmaster.kiev.ua)
3. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (??????? ??????????)
4. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (Sergey Myasoedov)
5. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (??????? ??????????)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:06:21 +0200
From: Yuri Varenitsa <yuri@webber.net.ua>
To: "ncc-services-wg@ripe.net" <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net>
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and
Lirs
Message-ID: <24907a28-6c56-9992-1c2c-36bcd2955241@webber.net.ua>
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Colleagues,

I support the holding of a general vote between Ukrainian companies in
order to be able to express their opinion on the issue of blocking.

--
Kind regards, Yuri Varenytsa

On 18.12.2022 14:32, Alexander Buzaev wrote:
> Hello
>
> *I agree to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs, as well.*
>
>
> --
> Alexander Buzaev
>
>
> /18 December 2022, 14:29:29, by "Serhii Khomenko"
> <khomenko.serhii.m@gmail.com <mailto:khomenko.serhii.m@gmail.com>>: /
>
> Hi,
>
> *I agree to do a survey. *
>
> Kind regards,
> Serhii
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
>
> Viktor Stoliarchuk
> 2022-12-18 11:10:45 CET
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a
> couple of people at the conference?
>
> RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with
> thousands of companies.
>
>
> I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.
>
> THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:
> ? ?Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.
>
> ? ? !!Not here in the working group.!!
>
> ? ?The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only
> squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if
> you are the New user.
>
> The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also
> caused several questions)
>
> ? ?It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country
> and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.
> Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.
>
> ? ?(Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)
>
> ? ?I'm looking forward to your decision.
> ? ?I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.
>
> Best regards,
> Viktor Stoliarchuk
>
> --
>
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit:https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:25:44 +0200
From: pavel@hostmaster.kiev.ua
To: "ncc-services-wg@ripe.net" <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net>
Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs
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Hello
Yes, it would be good to see a list or at least a percentage of people who really want to block resources.
my intuition tells me, it will be very short.

Pavel

????: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs
????: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:06:21 +0200
??: Yuri Varenitsa <yuri@webber.net.ua>
????: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net <ncc-services-wg@ripe.net>

Colleagues,

I support the holding of a general vote between Ukrainian companies in
order to be able to express their opinion on the issue of blocking.

--
Kind regards, Yuri Varenytsa

On 18.12.2022 14:32, Alexander Buzaev wrote:
> Hello
>
> *I agree to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs, as well.*
>
>
> --
> Alexander Buzaev
>
>
> /18 December 2022, 14:29:29, by "Serhii Khomenko"
> <khomenko.serhii.m@gmail.com <mailto:khomenko.serhii.m@gmail.com>>: /
>
> ? ? Hi,
>
> ? ? *I agree to do a survey. *
>
> ? ? Kind regards,
> ? ? Serhii
>
> ? ? _______________________________________________________________________
>
> ? ? Viktor Stoliarchuk
> ? ? 2022-12-18 11:10:45 CET
>
> ? ? Dear colleagues,
>
> ? ? How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a
> ? ? couple of people at the conference?
>
> ? ? RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with
> ? ? thousands of companies.
>
>
> ? ? I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.
>
> ? ? THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:
> ? ? ?? ?Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.
>
> ? ? ?? ? !!Not here in the working group.!!
>
> ? ? ?? ?The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only
> ? ? squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if
> ? ? you are the New user.
>
> ? ? The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also
> ? ? caused several questions)
>
> ? ? ?? ?It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country
> ? ? and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.
> ? ? Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.
>
> ? ? ?? ?(Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)
>
> ? ? ?? ?I'm looking forward to your decision.
> ? ? ?? ?I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.
>
> ? ? Best regards,
> ? ? Viktor Stoliarchuk
>
> ? ? --
>
> ? ? To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit:https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg
>
>
>
>

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 18:22:04 +0200
From: ??????? ?????????? <nikolay.maslianikov@gmail.com>
To: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and
Lirs
Message-ID:
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Hello everyone,
I support polling IPv4 objects holders. Using this way RIPE can really
protect the interests of its customers.

??, 18 ???. 2022 ?. ? 13:34, Askochenskaya Alexandra <askoch@merezha.net>:
>
> Hello
>
> I totally agree. Everyone should have the possibility to vote and tell it's opinion, if we live in a democracy world, of course.
>
> --
> Best regards, Alexandra
>
>
>
> On 18.12.22 13:09, dem wrote:
>
>
> I agree
>
> -------- ???????? ????????? --------
> ??: vs@liptel.net.ua
> ????: 18.12.2022 10:39 (GMT+01:00)
> ????: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net
> ????: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference?
>
> RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies.
>
>
> I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.
>
> THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:
> Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.
>
> !!Not here in the working group.!!
>
> The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user.
>
> The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions)
>
> It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies. Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.
>
> (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)
>
> I'm looking forward to your decision.
> I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.
>
> Best regards,
> Viktor Stoliarchuk
>
> --
>
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 11:35:09 -0500
From: Sergey Myasoedov <sergey@devnull.ru>
To: vs@liptel.net.ua, ncc-services-wg@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and
Lirs
Message-ID: <B7A6F715-0FC5-459F-A90E-53ED5FD24033@devnull.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Viktor,

I can?t understand why do we need a _survey_ if we are working on policy. A policy shouldn?t be done for a single country.

--
Best regards,
Sergey Myasoedov

> On Dec 18, 2022, at 05:10, vs@liptel.net.ua wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference?
>
> RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies.
>
>
> I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.
>
> THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:
> Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.
>
> !!Not here in the working group.!!
>
> The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user.
>
> The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions)
>
> It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies. Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.
>
> (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)
>
> I'm looking forward to your decision.
> I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.
>
> Best regards,
> Viktor Stoliarchuk
> --
>
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 19:02:48 +0200
From: ??????? ?????????? <nikolay.maslianikov@gmail.com>
To: ncc-services-wg@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and
Lirs
Message-ID:
<CAP94h=2mPqU7+e3vYdxuqZuGNEuwAoMKY8Z3vZXFN4Cf2yQcgg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

U r right, but do not limit the rights of clients of a single country
while you are working on a security policy.

??, 18 ???. 2022 ?. ? 18:35, Sergey Myasoedov via ncc-services-wg
<ncc-services-wg@ripe.net>:
>
> Hi Viktor,
>
> I can?t understand why do we need a _survey_ if we are working on policy. A policy shouldn?t be done for a single country.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Sergey Myasoedov
>
> > On Dec 18, 2022, at 05:10, vs@liptel.net.ua wrote:
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference?
> >
> > RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies.
> >
> >
> > I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.
> >
> > THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:
> > Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.
> >
> > !!Not here in the working group.!!
> >
> > The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user.
> >
> > The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions)
> >
> > It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies. Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.
> >
> > (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)
> >
> > I'm looking forward to your decision.
> > I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Viktor Stoliarchuk
> > --
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg
>
>
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>
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