Hi,

>This is why this proposal is useful, and not only for LEAs, I imagine CSIRTs could have the same view.

I think any proposal can demonstrate that it is useful in some cases, to fix this issue of "losing time and wasting resources", someone needs to pay the price. I still cannot see that much benefit for the RIPE community here to outweigh the costs. so I'm against it for the moment.

Regards,

Arash Naderpour

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:33 AM Marcolla, Sara Veronica <Sara.Marcolla@europol.europa.eu> wrote:

Hi again,

I am a bit puzzled by this statement. If you only have the information concerning the tech support of said company, you would invest time and effort in sending the request to that country - where they would turn down the request as the company is not legally incorporated in such country, but in another one, at which point you would have to do all the process again, losing time and wasting resources. Just because you could not immediately pinpoint a geographical jurisdiction.

This is why this proposal is useful, and not only for LEAs. I imagine CSIRTs could have the same view.

Best,
Sara

-----Original Message-----
From: ncc-services-wg [mailto:ncc-services-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Jim Reid
Sent: 10 October 2018 15:17
To: ROBINOT Stephane DCPJ SDLC
Cc: RIPE NCC Services WG
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Get a warrant or direct request ?

> On 10 Oct 2018, at 13:21, ROBINOT Stephane DCPJ SDLC <stephane.robinot@interieur.gouv.fr> wrote:
>
> So one question might also be : would you agree answering an official request coming directly from a foreign LEA ?

IIUC it doesn't work that way.

Overseas law enforcement is supposed to contact the appropriate national law enforcement body and have them make the request on their behalf. Anyone else who approaches a registry should be told to go through the official (MLAT?) channels.

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