Dear community and NCC, while talking with one of my colleagues (who very recently attended a LIR training), and processing a request submitted by one of our customers to change their inetnum: contact details I started to wonder: As far as I can remember there was a rule (strong recommendation?) to use a "real" person as the contact in admin-c:, while a role: could be used for tech-c: and zone-c: (But maybe I am mixing [legacy] domain object requirements or some TLD admin's requirements with the address registry...) I was told that the LIR training course _does_ mention the role: object, but _does not_ offer guidance about the use. So, I started digging for documentation about the use of, and linkage to, person: and role: objects for inet[6]num. No success. I probably missed some section where it is described. Then I had a look at the PI and PA request forms and accomp. notes. Again, no guidance as to where a role c/should be used (or not). At the same time I became aware again, that the _new_ PI and PA address request forms are different: the PI form still has the database object section, but that was dropped from the PA form! I am left with 2 questions now: A) why is there a difference between PI and PA forms regarding DB information? B) is there still a recommendation or requirement to use a "real" person: as the reference for an admin-c:? Thanks for any help. Wilfried. _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~