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2012-08 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Emilio Madaio 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

Dear Colleagues, A new RIPE Policy Proposal has been made and is now available for discussion. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> before 12 November 2012. Regards Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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Short report about last week's outage now on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Dear colleagues, As announced earlier, we published a short report on RIPE Labs analysing the network outage we experienced at the RIPE NCC: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ripe-ncc-outage-report-29-october-2012 Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Webinars - new dates
by Training Mailbox 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, We're pleased to announce that we've added new RIPE NCC Webinar dates for RIPE NCC members. The RIPE NCC Webinars are live, one-hour online training courses that allow participants to interact with our trainers without leaving their desks. We focus on the topics and issues most important to RIPE NCC members. Register now at: <https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/webinars> Participation is limited to 20 people, so don't hesitate if you want to take part! If you have questions, please email <e-learning(a)ripe.net>. We look forward to seeing you online. Kind regards, RIPE NCC Training Services

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Policy Proposal 2011-05 "Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space" implemented
by Radha Ramphul 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce that RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space", has been implemented. The RIPE NCC is now ready to accept requests for IXP IPv4 assignments under this policy. The full proposal can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 The updated "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy" document is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-553 IPv4 and IPv6 IXP assignments will now be evaluated using a common request template. You can access the template through the LIR Portal or online at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-564 The supporting notes are available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-565 If you have any questions, please contact<ncc(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Radha Ramphul Registration Services RIPE NCC

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Progress on drafting version 2 of policy proposal 2012-07 (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Niall O'Reilly 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

After a couple of homework meetings during RIPE 65, Sander Steffann now has the pen and a list of elements to be included in version 2 of policy proposal 2012-07. Sander hopes to have a draft ready for review next week. A first review will take place on the ERX-HOLDERS list, so that what is released in due course through the policy development process and on the NCC Services WG list will have had buy-in from the concerned legacy resource holders in advance. I will check with the co-chairs of the NCC Services WG and with the RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer to ensure that no surprises occur around the release of version 2 through the PDP and to the WG. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly

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NOAUTO: IPv4 Exhaustion: PI-IP-addresses for end-user
by Jens Pickardt 25 Sep '12

25 Sep '12

Hello, the allocation of the last /8 was started. Is it right, that end-user don´t get PI-IPv4-addresses ? Concerns this only new PI-IP-end-users or also end-users, who want to extend the existing PI-IP-address-space ? This would be an important information for our customers. Thanks and regards Jens Pickardt _____________________________________________________________________________ teliko GmbH Telekommunikationsgesellschaft In den Fritzenstücker 17 D-65549 Limburg a. d. Lahn Fon +49 6431 73070-40 Fax +49 6431 73070-14 EMail: jens.pickardt(a)teliko.de Internet: www.teliko.de<http://www.teliko.de> ___________________________________________________________________________________ Besuchen Sie uns in der teliko-Lounge auf der Wincor World 2012! Fachmesse & Forum für Banken und Handel - Vom 16.- 18. Oktober 2012 in Rheda-Wiedenbrück ___________________________________________________________________________________ Fragen zu unseren Dienstleistungen? Kostenlose Hotline: 08000-teliko, wählen Sie dazu 08000 835456. Besuchen Sie unsere Webseite <<http://www.teliko.de>> Geschäftsführer: Frank Berkessel, Dipl.-Ing. Sascha Holste, Dipl.-Ing. Klaus Friederitzi; Dipl.-Ing. Klaus-Peter Altmann Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Werner Dommermuth Gerichtsstand: AG Limburg, HRB 1863 ********************************************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER: Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informa- tionen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Empfaenger sind oder diese E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail oder des Inhalts dieser Mail sind nicht gestattet. Ueber das Internet versandte E-Mails koennen leicht verfaelscht oder unter fremdem Namen erstellt werden. Zu Ihrer und unserer Sicherheit schließen wir daher die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der vorstehenden Erklaerungen aus. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is confidential and should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage mechanism. Due to the fact that e-mails are prone to manipulation and can be misleading as to the identity of the sender, the foregoing statements and comments shall have no legal validity. This is for your own protection as well as ours. **********************************************************************************************************

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Meet Debbie, the RIPE Database Robot!
by Sandra Bras 24 Sep '12

24 Sep '12

[Apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, RIPE NCC E-Learning is pleased to introduce you to Debbie, the RIPE Database Robot. Debbie is your guide through a new series of e-learning videos designed to help you get the most out of the RIPE Database: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/ripe-database The RIPE Database e-learning collection has also expanded with the addition of three new videos: - Create More Specifics (Hierarchical Authorisation) - Create IPv4 Assignments - Create IPv6 Assignments There are now eight brief video tutorials (most around three minutes duration) giving step-by-step instructions for users to perform a range of different operations in the RIPE Database. If you have any comments or questions, please send an email to <e-learning(a)ripe.net>. Happy learning! Sandra Bras Trainer / E-Learning Project Manager, RIPE NCC

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Destruction of trust
by Havard Eidnes 21 Sep '12

21 Sep '12

Hi, as you may be aware, the RIPE NCC is currently engaged in an activity to establish contact with legacy address space holders, and among other things to set up a contractual relationship between the RIPE NCC and the legacy resource holders. However, it is my opinion that the current RIPE NCC actions with legacy resource holders is destroying some of the valuable trust they have built in the community over the years. It has been said that "the RIPE NCC does what the members tell them to do". That does however not appear to be the case for this action, where the RIPE NCC appears to act in a policy-free zone, simply on executive decision. Despite the RIPE NCCs knowledge that work is ongoing to formulate a policy for this area, they are barging ahead, possibly in an attempt to establish a fait accompli. The message sent to the legacy resource holders does not mention the option which would probably be most preferable to at least most of our customers, namely registering the resources via the LIR at their service provider. One could suspect the RIPE NCC has self-interest in driving up the number of LIRs, to increase the number of paying customers of the RIPE NCC. Some of the documents about the approach with legacy resource holders has mentioned a "stick and carrot" approach. I'll claim that the stick is needlessly sharp and the carrot reeks of decomposition. Explanation: * The stick is primarily the "we cannot guarantee in-addr.arpa name service". Without it, a user will in practice be unable to operate mail servers within the affected address space, which would be a severe blow to those who still actively use their address space. The freezing of the registry data is an inconvenience which will ensure that the accuracy of the data whittles over time, an action initiated by the RIPE NCC no less... Many legacy resource holders have not updated their records in a long time already (many didn't have an actual need to do so), so while inconvenient, it's not as strong a stick as the threat of removal of the in-addr.arpa delegation. It should however be noted that the whittling of the registration data over time also is detrimental for the RIPE community at large, not only for the address space holder. * What's the carrot? Only the removal of the stick from above? What makes the carrot particularly rotten is several things: * The open-ended and unliateral application of "all relevant RIPE NCC policies and procedures". The fear would be "we will mire you or your LIR (or both) down in pointless address policy work to document ancient history, and have the RIPE NCC verify (or deny, as the case may be) all assignments done over time" (applicable where address space has been used in PA-fashion). ...or for PI-style assignments, the assignment itself might be challenged. * The highly uncertain status of the charging scheme in the longer term for the legacy resource holders, where the initial proposal to modify today's model had, with no discussion, abolished the "age based discount", and where current discussion is rampant with "payment per IP address" schemes. The fear is that the RIPE NCC will gouge the legacy resource holders either directly or indirectly, "motivating" them to hand back the resource. * The lack of recognition that these addresses were assigned under a different policy. Anecdotal evidence suggests that at one time you would be handed a class-B instead of 4 class-Cs because there was fear of growth of the routing table. Does the RIPE NCC now want to challenge the assignments? In sum, this makes the RIPE NCC appear more as an extorting bully rather than an agent who has the accuracy of the address register as its foremost priority, and this destroys some of the valuable trust they have built in the community over the years. Regards, - Håvard

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Questions about the fax the RIPE NCC received from United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI).
by Erik Bais 21 Sep '12

21 Sep '12

Dear all, For those that haven't seen the post by the RIPE NCC on the website ( https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/ripe-ncc-receives-communicat ion-from-united-against-nuclear-iran-uani ) If it wasn't written so seriously and someone would have told me this over a beer, I would actually have laughed and thought it was a joke. However as I read this not so funny letter from a former political diplomat, I probably missed the point when the RIPE GM meeting has become the location for political lobbyist to do their work and try to influence connectivity on the internet. I mean .. If the plan is to revoke all Iranian IP addresses, how would $Goverment get the next Stux malware updated to attack said plants. So, all jokes aside, what is the reply that is provided to the writer and if he would show up at the RIPE meeting, will he be provided any room to discuss the topic and will the request for a resolution be discussed during the GM meeting? Kind regards, Erik Bais

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RIPE NCC Tools and Technical Talks at RIPE 65
by Mirjam Kuehne 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, We have published a schedule on RIPE Labs that lists various RIPE NCC presentations during the upcoming RIPE 65 meeting: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/live-at-ripe65 Note that this is not a complete schedule and does not show all the regular RIPE Meeting reports. We have published this to make it easier for you to identify presentations and BoFs related to specific tools and technical projects provided by the RIPE NCC. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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