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RIPE 53: Minutes NCC Services WG
by Kurt Erik Lindqvist 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Please find attached the minutes of the last working-group meeting. - kurtis - Begin forwarded message: > > > RIPE 53 NCC Services WG Session > ------------------------------- > > Thursday, October 5th 2006 16:00 - 17:00 > > A. Administrative matters > > Welcome > Chairs: Kurt Erik Lindqvist and Bijal Sanghani > Scribe: Agata Peszkowska RIPE NCC > Distribute participant list > Finalise agenda > Minutes RIPE 52 approved > > > B. RIPE NCC update, Vision and Focus 2007: Proposed changes to > activities in 2007 > Axel Pawlik RIPE NCC > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/ > ripe_ncc_vision.pdf > > Axel asked for volunteers for the Task Force? > > Gert Doering, Ruediger Volk and Nigel Titley volunteered. > > Questions/Comments: > > Max Tulyev commented that RIPE NCC should educate ISPs on new > technologies (eg. DNSec, ENUM, IPv6) and their implementation. > > Axel Pawlik agreed that this kind of input can be conceived as > stepping on the toes > of businesses offering such services. > > Lars-Johan Liman agreed. The RIPE NCC should be an organisation > that does things on request of the RIPE Community. It should > nothave its own agenda, pushing advertising and such. > > Max Tulyev stated he was talking about presentations to target > groups and lectures at the > universities. > > Axel commented that the RIPE NCC relies on the LIRs to stimulate > these activities in your areas. The RIPE NCC is awaiting input and > ideas. > > C. Training Services update - Rumy Kanis RIPE NCC > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/ > training_services.pdf > > Rumy introduced the Training Services team > > Rumy asked if anyone had visited the E-Learning Centre. Two people > responded that they had. > There were no questions. > > D. Open microphone session > > Kurt Lindqvist strongly encouraged the attendees to participate in > discussions > and come forward with any issues of concern. > > There was a discussion in Database WG about email security. The > RIPE NCC mail servers don't support TLS. Would it be possible for > the RIPE NCC to assess the situation and see whether it can be > enabled? > > Action RIPE NCC: Andrei Robachevsky, RIPE NCC, agreed that the RIPE > NCC would investigate and report back at/by the next RIPE Meeting. > > There was general support for this in the room. > > Max Tulyev proposed that a charging scheme should be implemented > for IPv6 minimum allocation and PI. > > Kurtis Lindqvist advised that this should be brought up in the RIPE > NCC General Meeting discussions. > > Z. AOB > > None.

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Re: [enum-wg] Proposal for new org-type
by Niall O'Reilly 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

This message has two purposes. It is addressed to the ENUM WG with the purpose of determining consensus in this WG on the proposal from Antoin Verschuren. It is addressed to the DB and NCC-Services WGs as an inter-WG communication to alert these WG's to expect a consensus in the ENUM WG and a request from ENUM WG for related changes to the RIPE database. On 3 Oct 2006, at 10:35, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > In order for ENUM registries to be correctly distinguished in the RIPE > NCC database, I want to propose a new organization type to be used in > the organization object. > > Current organization types are: > IANA > RIR > NIR > LIR > NON-REGISTRY > > I would like this list to be extended with the term REGISTRY. > > I will note the issue tomorow in the ENUM WG, but need consensus to > take > place here, so please comment either here or tomorrow in the ENUM WG > session. On 4 Oct 2006, at 09:47, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > I can live with ENUM-REGISTRY, REGISTRY, OTHER or no org-type at all. > I cannot live with the org-type NON-REGISTRY. During his presentation in the ENUM WG, Antoin Verschuren made the following proposal. > In order for ENUM registries to not be misinterpreted in the RIPE > NCC database, I want to propose to change an organization type to be > used in the organization object. > Current organization types are: > > IANA > > RIR > > NIR > > LIR > > NON-REGISTRY > I would like this NON-REGISTRY to be changed to OTHER. I will declare consensus in the ENUM WG unless objections to Antoin's proposal are posted on the ENUM WG mailing list before 12:00 UTC on Thursday, 18 October 2006. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly Co-Chair, RIPE ENUM Working Group

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RE: [enum-wg] Proposal for new org-type
by Antoin Verschuren 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

Niall O'Reilly wrote: > This message has two purposes. > > It is addressed to the ENUM WG with the purpose of determining > consensus in this WG on the proposal from Antoin Verschuren. To let there be no misunderstanding, the final proposal with most consensus so far is: >> In order for ENUM registries to not be misinterpreted in the RIPE >> NCC database, I want to propose to change an organization type to be >> used in the organization object. >> Current organization types are: >> >> IANA >> RIR >> NIR >> LIR >> NON-REGISTRY >> >> I would like this NON-REGISTRY to be changed to OTHER. > > I will declare consensus in the ENUM WG unless objections to Antoin's > proposal are posted on the ENUM WG mailing list before 12:00 UTC on > Thursday, 18 October 2006. Regards, Antoin Verschuren Technical Advisor Policy & Business Development SIDN Utrechtseweg 310 PO Box 5022 6802 EA Arnhem The Netherlands T +31 26 3525510 F +31 26 3525505 M +31 6 23368970 E antoin.verschuren(a)sidn.nl W http://www.sidn.nl/

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RE: [ncc-services-wg] object-type: poem?
by Nigel Titley 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

> On 16.08 00:29, Tiberiu Ungureanu wrote: > > while looking for something else, i tripped and fell over this: > > > > $ whois -t poem > > > > poem: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] > > descr: [optional] [multiple] [ ] > > form: [mandatory] [single] [inverse key] > > text: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] > > admin-c: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] > > author: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] > > remarks: [optional] [multiple] [ ] > > notify: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] > > mnt-by: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] > > changed: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] > > source: [mandatory] [single] [ ] > > > > should i take it that RIPE database allow the creative ones to store > > their own poems (as in... poetry?). can anyone point me to > the document > > explaining this object ? > > This object supports activities of "The Secret Working Group", > a long standing tradition at RIPE meetings. > > See http://www.ripe.net/db/news/poem-object-200505.html > for the latest developments concerning this object. But which is slightly out of date. See my (forthcoming) presentation at the RIPE 53 DB-WG session. Nigel

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2005-02 implementation: IP assignments for anycasting DNS
by leo vegoda 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce that we will be able to accept e-mailed requests for assignments for anycasting DNS servers from 2 October 2006. The request form and supporting notes will be available from the RIPE Document Store at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/internet-registries.html We will make a separate announcement when it is possible to make requests via the LIR Portal. Assignments for anycasting DNS will come from reserved blocks: * IPv4 Anycast Assignments (/24) from 194.0.0.0/18 * IPv6 Anycast Assignments (/48) from 2001:0678::/29 You may want to update your filters. Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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RIPE 53 - NCC Services WG - Draft Agenda
by Sanghani, Bijal 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

Dear All, Please see below Draft Agenda for RIPE 53. Regards, Bijal === A. Administrative Matters (5 min) - Welcome - Select a scribe - Distribute participants list - Finalise agenda - Approve minutes from RIPE 52 B. RIPE NCC Update, Vision and Focus 2007: Proposed Changes to Activities in 2007 - Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC 25 minutes C. Training Services Update - Rumy Kanis, RIPE NCC 15 minutes D. Open Mic Z. AOB ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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ripe mailserver responing 4xx
by Marco Hogewoning 12 Sep '06

12 Sep '06

Just noticed, after I made a typo on an address the RIPE mailserver responds with 4xx temporary error on a non-existing user. Is this deliberate and why not send a 5xx permanen failure. -- aut-dbm(a)ripe.net SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<aut-dbm(a)ripe.net>: host postboy.ripe.net [193.0.0.201]: 450 <aut-dbm(a)ripe.net>: Recipient address rejected: Try again later: retry timeout exceeded -- Grtx, MarcoH

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Re: [enum-wg] New Documents available: RIPE-384, RIPE-385]
by Katie Petrusha 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

Dear Antoin, It is certainly possible to add a new organisation object type, like "ENUM", to be specifically used by the ENUM registries. This would involve the changes to the RIPE Database. I suggest you to contact ENUM-WG and DB-WG working group chairs to check first whether this change would require only a mailing list consensus or PDP, and then maybe put together a proposal for ENUM-WG and DB-WG and submit it to the appropriate mailing lists. -- Katie Petrusha RIPE NCC > > From: "Antoin Verschuren" <Antoin.Verschuren(a)sidn.nl> > > Date: 4 September 2006 2:26:40PM GMT+02:00 > > To: <enum-wg(a)ripe.net> > > Cc: <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> > > Subject: [enum-wg] New Documents available: RIPE-384, RIPE-385 > > Message-Id: <B33086268D53A0429A3AA2774C83892CDC5850(a)KAEVS1.SIDN.local> > > > > Guys, > > > > I have some sentimental issues with the new ENUM request forms as I > > found out when I had to use them last week. > > > > The new ENUM registrations ask to register an Organisation holding the > > registration. > > > > This "Organisation" template, has a "org-type:" field. > > RIPE tells me to fill in "NON-REGISTRY" in this field. > > > > I'm aware that we are not an RIR, LIR or NIR as in the RIR world, > > but I > > do feel the term "NON-REGISTRY" a bit degrading as we are the registry > > for .nl and soon hopefully for ENUM. > > > > Can we invent a new term to use for official ENUM tier-1 registries > > here > > ? > > > > Antoin Verschuren > > > > Technical Advisor > > Policy & Business Development > > SIDN > > Utrechtseweg 310 > > PO Box 5022 > > 6802 EA Arnhem > > The Netherlands > > > > T +31 26 3525510 > > F +31 26 3525505 > > M +31 6 23368970 > > E antoin.verschuren(a)sidn.nl > > W http://www.sidn.nl/

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[enum-wg] New Documents available: RIPE-384, RIPE-385
by Antoin Verschuren 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Guys, I have some sentimental issues with the new ENUM request forms as I found out when I had to use them last week. The new ENUM registrations ask to register an Organisation holding the registration. This "Organisation" template, has a "org-type:" field. RIPE tells me to fill in "NON-REGISTRY" in this field. I'm aware that we are not an RIR, LIR or NIR as in the RIR world, but I do feel the term "NON-REGISTRY" a bit degrading as we are the registry for .nl and soon hopefully for ENUM. Can we invent a new term to use for official ENUM tier-1 registries here ? Antoin Verschuren Technical Advisor Policy & Business Development SIDN Utrechtseweg 310 PO Box 5022 6802 EA Arnhem The Netherlands T +31 26 3525510 F +31 26 3525505 M +31 6 23368970 E antoin.verschuren(a)sidn.nl W http://www.sidn.nl/

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Changes at the NCC
by Jeremy Butler 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

I can't be the only one to spot a large number of job vacancies on the ripe web site. Is there some sort of change going on there that we will soon hear about - seems like alot of managers are needed. Jeremy Butler --------------------------------- The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider.

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