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RIPE67 Draft NCC Services WG Minutes
by Bijal Sanghani 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

Dear All, The draft minutes from the NCC Services WG at RIPE 67 are now available online at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/wg/services/minutes/ripe-67 Please feel free to send comments to either myself, Kurtis or the mailing list. Kind regards, Bijal Sanghani

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[training] RIPE NCC Webinars - new dates
by Training Services 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce the launch of new dates for our Webinars. The RIPE NCC Webinars are live and take only one hour. You can interact with our trainers without leaving your desk. We focus on the topics and issues most important for LIRs. Register now at https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/webinars Participation is limited to 20 people, so don't hesitate if you want to take part! If you have questions, please email <training(a)ripe.net>. We look forward to seeing you online. Kind regards, RIPE NCC Training Services

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Updated Implementation Plan: Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources
by Johan Åhlén 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Dear colleagues, On 30 January 2014, we announced a proposal for the implementation of RIPE Policy Proposal 2012-08, “Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources”. Since then, we received valuable input on this mailing list and have adjusted the proposal accordingly. The updated plan can be found at: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/johan_ahlen/policy-2012-08-proposed-plan-for-… If there are no objections to our proposal by this Friday, 14 February, we will move forward with the implementation as proposed. Kind regards, Johan Åhlén Assistant Manager Database RIPE NCC

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-07 Proposal Accepted (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Niall O'Reilly 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

At Thu, 06 Feb 2014 15:36:11 +0100, Marco Schmidt wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > Consensus has been reached, and the policy proposal 2012-07, "RIPE > NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders", has been accepted > by the RIPE community. [...] > The RIPE NCC has already begun preparations to implement this > proposal and we are currently working on creating the related > documentation to be reviewed during the next RIPE NCC General > Meeting in May. > > We will publish a more comprehensive implementation plan in the > coming weeks. I'm delighted; I see this announcement as excellent news. > Thank you to everyone who provided their input. I'ld like to add my expression of thanks to all involved: co-authors, others responsible for legacy resources, staff and management of the RIPE NCC, the NCC Services WG, and people who raised objections; I won't mention names, as the number of contributors is so great that I'm likely to make significant omissions. It was a privilege for me to be trusted with editing the proposal and to be supported by such a wide variety of input, good advice, and encouragement during the process. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly

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2012-07 Proposal Accepted (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Marco Schmidt 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

Dear colleagues, Consensus has been reached, and the policy proposal 2012-07, "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders", has been accepted by the RIPE community. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07 The new RIPE Document is ripe-605 and it is available at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-605 The proposal also amended the policies described in the RIPE Document "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region. The new RIPE Document is ripe-606 and it is available at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-606 The RIPE NCC has already begun preparations to implement this proposal and we are currently working on creating the related documentation to be reviewed during the next RIPE NCC General Meeting in May. We will publish a more comprehensive implementation plan in the coming weeks. Thank you to everyone who provided their input. Kind regards Marco Schmidt Policy Development Office RIPE NCC

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comments on proposal 2012-07
by Nick Hilliard 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Hello, I thought I'd chip in on 2012-07. The current version of the proposal is a huge improvement on v1.0 and thanks / kudos need to go to the authors for what was obviously a huge amount of work. I still have issues with a number of areas. Serious issues: Section 3.0 needs to include a term in the contract to state that the services provided by the RIPE NCC to the legacy resource holder are defined by RIPE community policy and may be amended from time to time, according to ripe community policy. Section 2.6 still provides carte blanche for legacy resource holders to freeload services off the RIPE NCC with no consequences. As a RIPE NCC member, I am not at all happy about this. The amount of work that the RIPE NCC is going to have to undertake to handle the legacy resource holder community is very large indeed, and it is not reasonable to expect the RIPE membership to foot the bill for those legacy resource holders who aren't members and who feel un-inclined to contribute towards registration services just because they couldn't be bothered to pay. Section 2.5: I see where this is coming from, namely there will probably be situations where the users of the address space will be unable to identify themselves adequately as having any claim to their assignment. However, this section is open to abuse and it concerns me that it's still there. I concede that there is a requirement to have some type of arrangement like this, but the wording of the current section needs to be tightened up considerably. Less serious issues: Section 2.4 is redundant. We have a well established precedent under the terms of 2007-01 for engaging with sponsoring LIRs and this seems to work well in practice. Creating this policy option merely adds cost to the RIPE NCC's bottom line for no gain. Nits: Section 3.0: "a statement that the RIPE NCC is not entitled to deregister the resources for whatever purpose unless so instructed by the resource holder". This statement is advisory only and it needs to be made clear that the sponsoring LIR does not have power to make a legally binding statement of this form. This actually applies to all four statements in section 3.0. Nick

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Proposed Implementation Plan for 2012-08, "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources"
by Johan Åhlén 03 Feb '14

03 Feb '14

Dear colleagues, Last week, the RIPE community reached consensus on the policy proposal 2012-08, "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources”. The RIPE NCC’s proposed implementation plan of the policy can be found here: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/johan_ahlen/policy-2012-08-proposed-plan-for-… You can find the full policy proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 The corresponding RIPE Document is ripe-603, which is available at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-603 If you have any comments or concerns, please let us know. Note: this email has been sent to both the RIPE NCC Services WG and the RIPE Database WG mailing lists. We would like to ask you to keep the discussion on the RIPE NCC Services WG mailing list to better facilitate participation. Kind regards, Johan Åhlén Assistant Manager Database RIPE NCC

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Proposed Implementation for 2012-08
by Henrik Lund Kramshøj 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

Hi WG members I read the "Proposed Implementation for 2012-08" listed at: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/johan_ahlen/policy-2012-08-proposed-plan-for-… "We propose to add a new optional attribute called "sponsoring-org:" to the object types INETNUM, INET6NUM and AUT-NUM. " - and asking for feedback and thoughts I am a LIR with multiple independent resources for my customers and I think the suggested implementation is reasonable. The proposal is easy to understand, aligns well with the current usage of the whois database and will allow me and colleagues to lookup the link. So from LIR dk.solidonetworks this is a +1 go ahead with the proposed implementation. Best regards Henrik PS not on the list, so please include me in responses if you need further information -- Henrik Lund Kramshøj, Follower of the Great Way of Unix internet samurai cand.scient CISSP hlk(a)kramse.org hlk(a)solidonetworks.com +45 2026 6000 http://solidonetworks.com/ Network Security is a business enabler

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-08 Proposal Accepted (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Bengt Gördén 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

2014-01-22 11:57, Marco Schmidt skrev: > Dear colleagues, > > > Consensus has been reached, and the proposal described in 2012-08, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources", has > been accepted by the RIPE community. > > > You can find the full proposal at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 > > > The new RIPE document is ripe-603 and it is available at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-603 > > > An announcement regarding the implementation will follow. > > > Thank you for your input. Thank you. When will we see an implementation of this in the database? regards, -- Bengt Gördén Resilans AB

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2012-08 Proposal Accepted (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Marco Schmidt 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

Dear colleagues, Consensus has been reached, and the proposal described in 2012-08, "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources", has been accepted by the RIPE community. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 The new RIPE document is ripe-603 and it is available at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-603 An announcement regarding the implementation will follow. Thank you for your input. Regards Marco Schmidt Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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