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New on RIPE Labs: Accountability and Trust as a Membership Organisation
by Mirjam Kuehne 16 May '19

16 May '19

Dear colleagues, As an initial response to concerns raised by members at our Moscow RIPE NCC Day back in April Axel Pawlik, our Managing Director has published an article on RIPE Labs that explores some of the challenges we are facing as an IP address registry in today's environment: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/axelpawlik/accountability-and-trust-as-a-memb… We will also be presenting on closures and due diligence in the RIPE NCC Services Working Group at RIPE 78: https://ripe78.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/services-wg/ Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Services wg Chair Selection
by Bijal Sanghani 14 May '19

14 May '19

Hi all, As per Kurtis’s email yesterday and the adopted NCC Services WG Chair Selection process (https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/services/ripe-ncc-services-wg-chai…) this email is to start a two week call for candidates. If you are interested in standing for selection, please announce to the mailing list and please read the description and responsibilities of a RIPE working group Chair as described in RIPE-692 (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-692). This call will end 24th April 2019 and will be followed by a two week discussion period on the mailing list. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Bijal Sanghani RIPE NCC Services working group co-chair

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Draft Agenda RIPE78 - NCC Services Working Group
by Bijal Sanghani 23 Apr '19

23 Apr '19

Dear all, Below and online you can find the NCC Services working group draft agenda, any additions or comments please let us know. - https://ripe78.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/services-wg/ Best regards, NCC Services working group chairs == Date: Wednesday 22nd May 2019 Time: 16.00 - 17.45 Chair: Kurtis Lindqvist Co-Chair: Bijal Sanghani A. Administrative Matters (5 minutes) Welcome Select a scribe Finalise agenda Approve minutes from RIPE 77 - https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/services/minutes/ripe-ncc-services… <https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/services/minutes/ripe-ncc-services…> B. RIPE NCC Update Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) C. Operational Update Felipe Victolla Silveira, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) D. Due Diligence at the RIPE NCC Athina Fragkouli, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) E. RIPE NCC Survey 2019 Fergal Cunningham, RIPE NCC (15 minutes) F. 10 years of 2007-01 implementation from a member's perspective Sergey Myasoedov, NetArt Group (15 minutes) G. Open Microphone Session (5 minutes) Z. Any other business (5 minutes)

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Call for Agenda Items RIPE78 - RIPE NCC Services WG
by Bijal Sanghani 10 Apr '19

10 Apr '19

Dear NCC-Services WG, RIPE78 is fast approaching and we have a few spaces free on the agenda. If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented please get in touch with the working group chairs at ncc-services-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net <mailto:ncc-services-wg-chairs@ripe.net>. Remember, this is your opportunity to let the RIPE NCC know what you want from them :) Best regards, RIPE NCC Services WG Chairs

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NCC Services WG Chairs
by Kurtis Lindqvist 09 Apr '19

09 Apr '19

Dear WG, As you might have seen, I have decided to run for the RIPE NCC board as a candidate. Naturally, if I get elected this would not be compatible with my current role as chair of the NCC Services WG and I commit to resigning from the position as WG chair if elected to the RIPE NCC board. I have discussed with Bijal as co-chair what the process would be after this. We both feel that the workload is low enough that she could continue as WG chair until the following RIPE meeting in the fall, when a new co-chair would be selected to replace me. It is worth noting that Bijal is also up for reselection at the same meeting, but she is wiling to continue for another term. Kurtis & Bijal

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Update of RIPE NCC Procedural Document
by Maria Stafyla 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC Procedural document 'Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Resources' has recently been reviewed and updated. The following is an overview of the amendments made. Section A.1.1 was amended to include situations where both the Member and the RIPE NCC agree to terminate the SSA before the usual three month period has passed. Other changes were made to avoid duplication of information. Section B.2 was updated to specify certain conditions under which a three month timeframe for deregistration of either Member or End User resources would be unreasonable. The wording in Section B.2.1 was amended to clarify that during the deregistration process the Member is not allowed to make new announcements using the resources to be deregistered, and that the RIPE NCC will update the maintainer on all the Member's resource objects - not just on the inetnum object. Section B.2.2 was amended to bring about alignment of the procedures for the deregistration of End User and Member resources and to clarify that if an End User does not have a sponsoring LIR when the deregistration procedure is initiated, they must first establish a contractual relationship with one before they can object to that procedure. Other amendments were carried out to align the wording of specific sections with the wording used in the rest of the document, the RIPE NCC Standard Service Agreement (Sections A.1.2.2.g and B.1.d), and other RIPE NCC procedural documents (Section A.1.1). Similarly, changes were made to reflect changes in the RIPE Database (both operational and structural) and in RIPE Policy requirements (Sections A.1.2.1.1.c and B.1.c). Please see here the relevant link: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-716/ Kind regards, Maria Stafyla Legal Counsel RIPE NCC

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Personal data in the RIPE Database
by ripedenis＠yahoo.co.uk 04 Mar '19

04 Mar '19

Colleagues I have just sent a message to the Database Working Group about personal data in the RIPE Database and the next step. As this impacts slightly on address policy, which explicitly refers to contact data, and it may involve member services to manage any cleanup of data, I would appreciate input from the members of these two working groups. Perhaps you can check the message on the DB-WG list and respond with your thoughts on that list. cheersdenisco-chair DB-WG

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2018-05 Policy Proposal Withdrawn (Publication of Legal Address of Internet Number Resource Holder)
by Marco Schmidt 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

Dear colleagues, The policy proposal 2018-05, "Publication of Legal Address of Internet Number Resource Holder" has been withdrawn. This proposal aimed for the RIPE NCC to publish the validated legal address information of all holders of Internet number resources. The proposal is archived and can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/archived-policy-proposals/archive… Reason for withdrawal: The proposer decided it was not possible to find an acceptable agreement which satisfied all parties. There is still heavy resistance in the community that cannot be resolved at this stage. Regards Marco Schmidt Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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@EXT2: RE: 2018-05 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Legal Address of Internet Number Resource Holder)
by Kennedy, James 20 Oct '18

20 Oct '18

Hi Sara, Thanks for your presentation on Wed. Looking forward to reading your revised proposal after feedback during RIPE77. You rightly requested wider community participation on the mailing list, and here's my input. I prefer to consider publishing org registration numbers. Business legal addresses can be then acquired from the local chamber of commerce or in Whois org objects. But I'm still unsure who exactly are you targeting? 1. The LIRs and PI resource holders, the top-level IP resource holders Legal address is already present in the RIPE Whois for IP resources distributed by the RIPE NCC via the 'org' object. Org reg number should replace this or be published in addition? Is there a real benefit? [Legacy and out-of-region IP resources holders are separate cases for discussion] 2. Static IP Business consumers under top-level IP resources I am more open to consider this. It would theoretically improve the accuracy of the database to the benefit network operators, LEAs and more but reliability maintenance would be a real challenge. We would need to see some cost-benefit analysis to justify the time, effort and financial expense to the community. 3. Residential/home IP user's personal info This is absolutely not feasible (not to mention unlawful?) because they are predominantly dynamic. End users of individual IP addresses change daily in huge volumes. Finally and independent of this policy proposal, I would like to echo Hans Petter's commendable message on Wed - the RIPE community is responsible for the state of the RIPE Whois database. If it is a mess, shouldn't we at least discuss how we could improve its common usefulness? It would be nice if the more vocal community members lead by example in this respect rather than throwing our underloved Whois baby out with the bathwater. Regards, James -----Original Message----- From: ncc-services-wg [mailto:ncc-services-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Marco Schmidt Sent: 27 September 2018 15:11 To: ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2018-05 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Legal Address of Internet Number Resource Holder) Dear colleagues, A new RIPE Policy proposal, 2018-05, "Publication of Legal Address of Internet Number Resource Holder", is now available for discussion. The goal of the proposal is for the RIPE NCC to publish the validated legal address information of holders of Internet number resources. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2018-05 As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this four-week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback to the proposer. At the end of the Discussion Phase, the proposer, with the agreement of the RIPE Working Group Chairs, decides how to proceed with the proposal. We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> before 26 October 2018. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Officer RIPE NCC Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum

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WG Chair elections
by Kurtis Lindqvist 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

All, As per the adopted NCC Services WG Chair Selection process (https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/services), this time round Bijal's position will be up for selection. Following the Chair Selection Process, this email starts a two week period call for candidates. If you are interested in standing for selection, please announce to the mailing list and please read the description and responsibilities of a RIPE working group Chair, RIPE-542 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-542, feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Kurtis

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