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Re: [ncc-services-wg] ncc-services-wg Digest, Vol 43, Issue 7
by Salam Yamout 27 May '15

27 May '15

+1 for Bijal salam On May 26, 2015, at 12:00 PM, ncc-services-wg-request(a)ripe.net wrote: > Send ncc-services-wg mailing list submissions to > ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ncc-services-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ncc-services-wg-owner(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ncc-services-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Chair selection (Janos Zsako) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:12:25 +0200 > From: Janos Zsako <zsako(a)iszt.hu> > To: Bijal Sanghani <bijal(a)euro-ix.net>, NCC Services WG > <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> > Cc: Lindqvist Kurt Erik <kurtis(a)kurtis.pp.se> > Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Chair selection > Message-ID: <55641CD9.30203(a)iszt.hu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > I support her nomination. > > Best regards, > Janos > > 2015.05.21. 12:43 keltez?ssel, Bijal Sanghani ?rta: > ... >> I am the current co-chair and I'd very much like to continue to contribute to the community in this way. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bijal > > > > > End of ncc-services-wg Digest, Vol 43, Issue 7 > **********************************************

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Chair selection
by Lindqvist Kurt Erik 26 May '15

26 May '15

All, as per the adopted NCC Services WG Chair Selection process, one seat is up for selection this time, and we decided Bijal’s position will be up for selection first. Following the Chair Selection Process, this email starts a two week period call for candidates. If you are interested in standing for selection, please announce so to the mailing list. -- Best regards, Lindqvist Kurt Erik kurtis(a)kurtis.pp.se

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Single-purpose "LIRs"
by Daniel Suchy 21 May '15

21 May '15

Hello, as already discussed in APWG, there're some LIRs, who were opened just to obtain additional /22 IPv4 block from last /8 and shortly after allocation receipt they're "organizationally merged". Part of this problem might be solved by 2015-01 policy proposal. But not all... Question, which I would like to ask is procedure, how RIPE NCC checks validity of informations provided by merged LIRs (for example, how is verified claimed company acquisition and so on). It seems only claims from "merged" LIRs are sufficient to allow merge. I think, some LIR merges were approved by RIPE NCC even in the fact no organizational-merge happens on the market and both organizations remain functional and doing their original business without any change. The only true reason is reducing expenses (pay one LIR instead of multiple ones) after address space is allocated. Another question is, what happens, if "already merged/closed" LIR of some "branch" is reopened? It will receive additional /22? This question is focused to internal RIPE NCC procedures - as community policies doesn't regulate that in detail. But if internal procedure of RIPE NCC is weak and allows such merges without any resist and (very) deep verifications, anyone can easily abuse original spirit of /8 policy. And I think policy spirit is also important - not every situation can be covered in advance by some policy paragraphs - that's not really possible. And policy abusers will be always one step ahead. I think one of RIPE NCC roles is protection of policy spirit, not only policy letter - and allowing such "merges" helps plungers, which're opening short-term LIRs for few months purposely. With regards, Daniel

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Chair selection process
by Lindqvist Kurt Erik 19 May '15

19 May '15

All, in London we discussed the chair selection process without much feedback. I promised to write up the slides I had made in text and send to list and we would then follow that process. The process outlined in London was as follows : RIPE NCC-Services WG Chair Selection process The RIPE NCC Services WG shall have at least two Working Group chairs and a maximum of three. The RIPE NCC Services WG Chairs are selected for a two year period, and one of the chairs will stand down every year. The chair not standing down shall make a call for interested parties on the RIPE NCC Services WG mailing list. Interested parties then have a two week period to make their interest known. After this, the chair(s) not up for selection will issue a two week discussion period where the RIPE NCC Services WG community can express approval or otherwise for the candidates that have expressed interest. At the end of the two week discussion period the chair(s) not up for selection will call consensus for the candidate(s). Appeals will follow the normal WG chair appeal process from the RIPE PDP. The little feedback we got on the mailing list and and the meeting I believe is consensus., but I’d like to with this email start a two week last call on the proposed process. We will have a brief a discussion in Amsterdam, and then per the above start the call for nominees as per above. -- Best regards, Lindqvist Kurt Erik kurtis(a)kurtis.pp.se

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[training] RIPE NCC Training Courses July-September 2015
by Training Services 11 May '15

11 May '15

Dear colleagues, Our training team travels the RIPE NCC service region to deliver training courses to our members without any additional cost. Over the next few months, we'll be in Frankfurt, London, Skopje, Stockholm, Minsk, Sarajevo, Vladivostok, Tel Aviv, Tallinn, Zurich, Paris, Amsterdam. Visit the following page to register and to check which training courses we are giving in your area: https://lirportal.ripe.net/training/courses The RIPE NCC delivers the following training courses: - LIR Training Course - Database Training Course - Basic IPv6 Training Course - 2 day Advanced Training Course - Routing Security Training Course For more information visit: https://www.ripe.net/support/training/courses With kind regards, Rumy Spratley-Kanis Training Services Manager

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NCC Services WG Draft Agenda - RIPE 70
by Bijal Sanghani 05 May '15

05 May '15

Hi all, Please see below and online the NCC Services WG draft agenda - https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/services-wg/ See you next week. Best regards, NCC Services WG chairs === Date: Wednesday 13 May 2015 Time: 16.00 - 17.45 Chair: Kurtis Lindqvist Co-Chair: Bijal Sanghani A. Administrative Matters (5 minutes) Welcome Select a scribe Finalise agenda Approve minutes from RIPE 69 https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/services/minutes/ripe-69-ripe-ncc-… B. RIPE NCC Update Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) C. RIPE NCC Outreach Paul Rendek, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) D. Technical update Kaveh Ranjbar, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) F. Restructured RIPE NCC website Mihnea-Costin Grigore, RIPE NCC (10 minutes) G. Working group chair selection process Kurtis Lindqvist, NCC Services WG chair (5 minutes) H. Open Microphone Session (5 minutes) Z. Any other business

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