December 2012 - ncc-services-wg

Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-08 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Randy Bush 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

< peanut gallery > this one seems a no brainer to me. it's just part of proper and open documentation of registration and allocation, the ncc's primary job. as far as the lir not wanting to be known to have sponsored a pi site, if the lir is ashamed of doing something, maybe they should not have done it. i just don't get this stuff. correct and open documentation is the ncc's primary job. randy

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Fwd: GeekTools Whois Proxy and RIPE/RIPE-NCC
by Nick Hilliard 02 Jan '13

02 Jan '13

This seems odd. I can't seem to find any mention of charging for bulk whois access in the RIPE NCC AGM or the PDP. Am I missing something here? Nick -------- Original Message -------- Subject: GeekTools Whois Proxy and RIPE/RIPE-NCC Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:41:54 -0500 From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe(a)centergate.com> To: nanog(a)nanog.org NANOG and ARIN Friends, 14 Years ago, at the suggestion of Jon Postel and some of the early participants in NANOG, we developed the GeekTools Whois proxy to make it easier for *us* - network security and abuse techs - to deal with the expanding number of gtlds and registrars and the varied whois servers that were appearing. The service had both a CLI and web interface. The service also led directly to the creation of whois-servers.net, which now seems to be part of a number of *nix distributions. The service has been up for 14 years, and over that time we have fulfilled the requirements of all of the whois server operators in regards to minimizing and stopping abuse of the GT whois proxy by domain scrapers, spammers, etc, while enabling the security folks to do their jobs. In some cases we have even written code to pass the ip address of the requestor to the whois server registry operator when they wanted to manage quota's directly. We think we have a really good relationship with all of the whois server operators, and I think we provide a useful service to the community, and is widely used. And in 14 years we have never been tarred as an enabler of abuse of "the whois" system. There has obviously never been any kind of charge or fee for using the proxy, or any of the other tools on GeekTools. In about 2002 we started placing a banner ad on the web interface page to offset some of the costs for the bandwidth that the proxy consumes. An average of about $70 a month for over the last 10 years. Actual bandwidth costs are higher than that of course, but it was a thought in 2002 that we had frankly forgotten about until recently. Two weeks ago RIPE-NCC, who provide the whois data for IP addresses in the RIPE region, informed us that based on decisions by their members, as of January 1st 2013, tomorrow, they would no longer provide whois proxy query response services to GeekTools unless we ponied up $1,800 a year for RIPE membership. I don't work very well above layer 7. It is what it is. So I wanted to let you know that as of midnight tonight, apparently, you won't be able to use GeekTools for RIPE related queries. If you have automated scripts, and you are one of the users who has expanded access to GeekTools, you'll need to find an alternative for RIPE queries *today*. My guess is that you will be able to query RIPE directly, once you have worked out that the address space is within RIPE's assignments. I think its wrong to have to pay for whois data that is part of a community resource . So I won't do it.

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RIPE NCC Webinars - new dates
by Training Mailbox 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce the launch of new dates for our Webinars for LIRs. The RIPE NCC Webinars are live, one hour online training courses that allow participants to interact with our trainers without leaving their desks. We focus on the topics and issues most important for LIRs. Register now at https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/webinars Participation is limited to 20 people, so don't hesitate if you want to take part! If you have questions, please email <e-learning(a)ripe.net>. We look forward to seeing you online. Kind regards, RIPE NCC Training Services

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New on RIPE Labs: Conclusions Drawn from Reverse DNS Event
by Mirjam Kuehne 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, On Wednesday 13 June 2012, an unknown error caused the removal of several zone files from the configuration of our reverse DNS provisioning system. Following up from the initial report published on RIPE Labs, we further analysed what caused the incident and implemented a number of procedures to decrease the likelihood of this happening in the future. Please see the report on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/conclusions-drawn-from-reverse-dns-event Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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New RIPE NCC PGP Key
by Andrea Cima 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, On Monday, 7 January 2013 we will start using our 2013 key to sign e-mails from our ticketing system. The new key has been signed by the old key as described in the key-management policy on our web site: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/contact/pgp-authentic… The old key remains valid until Thursday, 31 January 2013. If you have any questions about this, please contact <ops(a)ripe.net>. Kind Regards, Andrea Cima RIPE NCC

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Problem in payment of invoices
by Shahin Gharghi 10 Dec '12

10 Dec '12

Dear madam/sir We are a LIR in Iran. So we have to pay our invoices frequently. But the problem is we are banned from SWIFT and every money transfer company or bank. So there is no legal way to pay our invoices. Even we don't have any credit card or Paypal too. We must resort to third parties to make payments. This does not work well. Why is the Paypal system blocked for us? This is not fair. Is there any way for us? Thank you. -- Best Regards Reza Madadi

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