April 2010 - ncc-services-wg - mailman.ripe.net

New RIPE NCC Procedural Document Available
by Andrea Cima 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC has published a new RIPE NCC procedural document: ripe-475, "Independent Internet Number Resources – Contractual Relationship Changes between sponsoring LIR and End User" This document describes the steps to be taken when there are changes in the contractual relationship between the End User of independent Internet number resources and the sponsoring Local Internet Registry (LIR). It also describes the scenarios in which the RIPE NCC may de-register independent Internet number resources and what happens to those resources once they are de-registered. The new document is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html Kind regards, Andrea Cima RIPE NCC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpfPukACgkQXOgsmPkFrjNlEwCcDtE364DhQCU0USBoK3kJhord yBgAoMbRsLFCStkXfvEaV6Mtm5b2sfxW =fKC3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RIPE NCC Membership Statistics published on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, With the year 2009 behind us, we looked at RIPE NCC membership growth and demographics over time. You can find some interesting statistics on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/content/ripe-ncc-membership-growth Next we will look at the distribution of number resources among the membership. Stay tuned! Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne

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Independent Resource procedure and implementation
by Daniel Suchy 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Hello, I would like to open discussion related to "Action Required: Contractual Relationship for Independent Resource Assignments" emails, that almost all LIRs received from RIPE NCC in the past. I have some notes from perspective of small LIR (or from perspective of person helping running multiple small LIRs). My first note points to system in general. Although RIPE NCC has many required informations in own existing databases already, it requires additional action from LIR in general. Typical small LIR has one or more PA allocations and exactly _one_ autonomous system registered. In RIPE database, there are records matching allocated PA prefix and ASN (route objects with proper origin AS and related inetnum objects, many ASNs has paired LIRs org: in aut-num object). In addition, RIS service (with history!) can be used for verification of these informations obtained automatically from database. For incomprehensible reason, RIPE NCC doesn't use these informations at all and instead of this abuses ALL LIRs with submiting simple form with exactly one record within it. I thing RIPE RCC has enough resources (financial and human) to do that automatically. My second note points to implementation of this new tool. I discovered, that I'm not able to "new" tool used for confirmation. I'm using PKI login feature and I have one identity paired with more LIRs. Although I'm able login to the LIR portal and modify everything I need with my certificate, I'm _NOT_ able to update informations on "Independent Resources" page. The main reason is, that RIPE NCC created new and separated (!) tool instead of simple integration of new feature/functionality to existing LIR portal. So, instead of reusing existing code used for LIR portal authentication, new outside code was developed for this new tool. And this new code doesn't implement all authentication features from LIR portal. In my point of view, this is quite unprofessional approach of modern application development. Aplications should be multi-layer, allowing easy new feature implementation. I reported this issue to RIPE NCC on friday last week, but first "answer" I received yesterday from RIPE NCC was initiation of audit in one LIR. Just fortuitous event? I don't believe. I have no problems with audit itself, I have all records, but this takes some additional time (and of course, money). Just because I claimed some problems to RIPE NCC staff due to problematic internal _implementation_ of new policy. Ok, I would like to open public discussions about this problem. There are some questions to answer and discuss: * why RIPE NCC just doesn't use informations from RIPE database in case of their availability and verifiability, why abuses small LIRs instead * why aren't RIS data used for automatic obtaining of requested informations, where this can be applicable * why RIPE NCC didn't integrate "confirmation" tool to existing LIR portal and why new outside application with _limited_ functionality was developed instead of reusing of existing code and functionality * what architecture is used for LIR portal in general, can be there easily implemented new features Of course, I understand, that there are large LIRs and some historic mess, where this action may be required due to lack of records in existing databases. But, I think this is NOT a case of LIRs started in past couple of years, where all required data should be available. With regards, Daniel

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Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses
by Training 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/lir/outline.html - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/outline.html - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List & Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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Legal memorandum independent resources
by Andrea Cima 29 Apr '10

29 Apr '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Colleagues, At the RIPE 59 Meeting in Lisbon, Portugal in October 2009, the RIPE NCC Services Working Group requested that the legal memorandum on reclamation of independent resources be shared with the Working Group via the mailing list. The document attached includes the relevant points of the lawyers' advice. Kind regards, Andrea Cima Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvZgwkACgkQXOgsmPkFrjM5MQCfbx1z1knjqDzSRQXVrixVGVvs 1ZkAn2qhm3MEVxwWHC5oHYG+rGXIbOfr =+TCw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] LIR Locator Tool on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

Sergey, Thanks for your feedback. Is there anything that would make the tool more useful for you? I am not sure I understand your comment regarding the inetnum objects. The tool would allow LIRs to include extra information in addition to what can be expressed in an inetnum object. If you would like to discuss the project in more detail (with the developers of the software), please note that there is a forum available on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/content/lir-locator-tool-0 Kind Regards, Mirjam > I think this is funny tool, not more. It is not useful. Even if members can add more info > on entries, this tool will not provide the correct snapshot of LIR services coverage. > > You can add all inetnum objects as a layer. The result will be the same. > > > > Friday, April 16, 2010, 4:09:27 PM, you wrote: > > MK> Dear colleagues, > > MK> The RIPE NCC is working on an LIR Locator tool. You can find some more > MK> details on RIPE Labs: > > MK> http://labs.ripe.net/content/lir-locator-tool > > MK> Please let us know what you think. > > MK> Kind Regards, > MK> Mirjam Kühne > MK> RIPE NCC > > -- > Sergey

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NCC Services WG Draft Agenda - RIPE 60
by Bijal Sanghani 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Dear Colleagues, RIPE NCC Services Working Group Draft Agenda - RIPE 60 Date: Wednesday, 5 May , 16:00 - 17:30 A. Administrative Matters Welcome Select a scribe Distribute participants list Finalise agenda Approve minutes from RIPE 59 B. Report from RIPE NCC - Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC C. RIPE Labs Update - Mirjam Kuehne, RIPE NCC G. Open Microphone Session Z. AOB Regards, Bijal The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should return it to the sender immediately. Please note that while we scan all e-mails for viruses we cannot guarantee that any e-mail is virus-free and accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.

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LIR Locator Tool on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC is working on an LIR Locator tool. You can find some more details on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/content/lir-locator-tool Please let us know what you think. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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Update to RIPE NCC LIR Portal
by Andrew de la Haye 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

[Apologies for duplicates] Dear RIPE NCC member, The RIPE NCC is currently in the process of upgrading the LIR Portal to a single sign-on system. Once implemented, this system will allow members to more easily access all RIPE NCC services that require the user to sign in. To help ensure a smooth deployment, the upgrade will be rolled out in stages over the coming months. The first stage of deployment, upgrading the Billing section of the site, was carried out on Wednesday, 14 April. Because the deployment of this new sign-in system so far applies to only part of the LIR Portal, users may find that they are asked to sign in more than once as they move between different sections of the site. This is to be expected, and will continue until the single sign- on system has been fully deployed throughout the LIR Portal. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause users. If you have any questions or comments regarding this upgrade, please email <ncc(a)ripe.net >. Best regards, Andrew de la Haye Chief Operations Officer

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