July 2005 - ncc-services-wg - mailman.ripe.net

Complaints about becoming a new LIR
by Hank Nussbacher 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

Have any of you recently tried to become a new LIR?! I am helping an organization become a LIR and they pointed out many items that I think the RIPE NCC needs to take account of. Here is what they are doing: 1) User goes to www.ripe.net 2) User clicks on 'membership' in left panel 3) User now goes to http://www.ripe.net/membership/ 4) User now clicks on 'become a member' 5) User now on http://www.ripe.net/membership/new-members/index.html 6) User now clicks on "Updated Procedure for Becoming a New RIPE NCC LIR [08 June 2004]" 7) User now on http://www.ripe.net/membership/new-members/new-form-20040608.html 8) User now clicks on "More information on the new LIR procedure can be found here." 9) User now redirected to https://lirportal.ripe.net/newmember/index.html 10) User clicks 'I agree' at bottom 11) User now starts online application at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/newmember/MemberApplication.html 12) User now supplies name and email and clicks next 13) User now is asked for lots of legal info and clicks next 14) user is now asked for lots of billing info and clicks next 15) User is now asked for registry data and clicks next 16) User is now asked for mailing list subscriptions and clicks next 17) User is asked to provide remarks and clicks next 18) User now can submit the form Now imagine a network admin is asked by his/her company to become a LIR. He/she has never worked with RIPE. They follow the process and get to step 13. They stop what they are doing and contact their bosses and lawyers about filling in the legal info. They accumulate the answers after a few phone calls and emails and now move inward to step 14. Now they call the accounting dept and get the necessary info to complete this screen. Hit next. Now they call the head of the IT dept and ask who should be added as a contact person. Hit next. Whoops. Now I need to know who from the IT dept should be getting local-ir and ncc-co emails. Call back IT dept head. Confused yet? RIPE-303 which is now obsolete, but was the last available 'Procedure for becoming a LIR', states in section 2 that one has to sign an official contract with RIPE: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/service-agreement.html (ripe-320). RIPE-320 is *not* obsolete, so I guess one does have to, but the new Lirportal procedure makes no reference to it at all (steps 1-18). Since ripe-303 is obsolete, a new user would normally not read it and therefore would not know about ripe-320. IMHO, the entire new LIR procedure has been made very cumbersome and non-intuitive and has not been reviewed for user friendliness. Previously, with ripe-230, one had all the info needed in one spot and could see very clearly what info and data from within the company is needed to become a LIR. Nowadays, it is a 3 day job just to figure out what the LIR portal will be asking along the way. I think that the RIPE NCC has to revise this entire procedure from the ground up. Regards, Hank Nussbacher

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Reminder: RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Moscow 15 - 16 September 2005
by Membership Liaison Officer 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, We would like to remind you that registration is open for the second RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Moscow. The meeting will be held 15 - 16 September 2005 at the Moscow Marriott Grand Hotel in Moscow, Russia. Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible for covering their own travel and accommodation costs. MEETING VENUE Marriott Grand Hotel 26/1 Tverskaya Street Moscow, 125009 Russian Federation Phone: +7 095 9370000 Fax: +7 095 9370001 More information about the meeting venue can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/moscow-2005/meeting-venue.html REGISTRATION Registration for the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is now open. Registration will close on Friday, 9 September 2005. To register, please see: https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/meeting/registration/meeting.html?id=6 AGENDA The agenda for the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is available at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/moscow-2005/agenda.html We have reserved space in the agenda for presentations from the local community on current issues affecting the region. If there is a particular presentation or topic you would like included in the agenda, please send your suggestion to: <contact(a)ripe.net> VISA INFORMATION If you will need a visa to attend this meeting, please read the information available at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/moscow-2005/visa.html MORE INFORMATION More information about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Moscow is available from: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/moscow-2005/index.html If you have any further questions, please contact: <contact(a)ripe.net> Regards, Nathalie Dougall Membership Liaison Officer RIPE NCC www.ripe.net

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Status of 'org' attribute
by MarcoH 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

[appologies for cross-posting this] Hi all, Maybe I missed out on something, but accoording to various templates in the ripe-databese, the org-attribute is optional. Apparently the hostmaster mailrobot things otherwise and refuses requests with an error because of the org-attribute not being present. I just ran into it on a ASN request, but I recall having problems before with this. Can anybody tell me who is right, the database template or the robot ? In fact, the database reference (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/databaseref-manual.html#1.2.3) doesn't list it all. Grtx, MarcoH

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A planned power outage tomorrow
by Andrei Robachevsky 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Dear Colleagues, We were notified by the energy company that tomorrow, starting from 6 a.m. UTC, there will be a planned power outage in one of the RIPE NCC buildings. We are working now on providing power feeds to the equipment to eliminate any possible disruption of the services. However a risk still exists that we will have to shut down some of the servers, depending on the duration of the outage. We will notify you in such case. Best regards, Andrei Robachevsky CTO, RIPE NCC

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Fwd: Last Call for Input: RIPE NCC Membership Survey 2005
by Kurt Erik Lindqvist 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

All, please see below the final reminder of the NCC Membership Survey! Best regards, - kurtis - Begin forwarded message: >> [Apologies for duplicate e-mails] >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> There are only 48 hours left for you to fill in the RIPE NCC >> Membership Survey 2005. The survey will close on Friday, 8 July >> 2005. If you have not yet completed the survey, please take the >> time to do so. >> >> Your contribution to this survey is important, and offers you the >> opportunity to influence the future directions and services of the >> RIPE NCC. I strongly urge all our members to complete this survey >> and make sure that your opinions are heard. >> >> The survey is available at: >> http://www.ripe.net/membership/survey2005 >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Axel Pawlik >> Managing Director >> RIPE NCC >> www.ripe.net >> > > > ******************** > Nathalie Dougall > Membership Liaison Officer > RIPE NCC > www.ripe.net > >

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DNSSEC deployment on the reverse tree.
by Olaf M. Kolkman 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

[Apologies for duplicates] Dear Colleagues The RIPE NCC has been involved with the development of the DNSSEC protocol. Now that the protocol has become available, we plan to implement DNSSEC on our domains in the reverse DNS tree. The deployment of DNSSEC is the second and last phase of the Reverse DNS restructuring project. You can find more information about this project at: http://www.ripe.net/rs/reverse/dnssec/index.html To implement DNSSEC, we propose extending the policy for Policy for Reverse Address Delegation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space in the RIPE NCC Service Region. You can find the proposed policy at: http://www.ripe.net/rs/reverse/dnssec/draft-dnssec-policy.html. We welcome your feedback on this poposal before 1 August 2005. Please send your comments to the DNS Working Group Mailing List. We are also introducing two new procedures: "DNSSEC Key Maintenance Procedure" http://www.ripe.net/rs/reverse/dnssec/key-maintenance-procedure.html and "Procedure for Requesting DNSSEC Delegations" http://www.ripe.net/rs/reverse/dnssec/registry-procedure.html Your feedback on these drafts is also welcome, again please send this to the DNS Working Group Mailing List. As part of the "Procedure for Requesting DNSSEC Delegations" we plan to add a "ds-rdata:" attribute to DOMAIN objects. Regards Olaf M Kolkman New Projects, RIPE NCC.

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Announcement: RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Moscow 15 - 16 September 2005
by Membership Liaison Officer 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC is pleased to announce the second RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Moscow. The meeting will be held 15 - 16 September 2005 in Moscow, Russia. The meeting venue will be announced shortly. Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible to cover their own travel and accommodation costs. REGISTRATION Registration for the Regional Meeting is now open. Registration will close on Friday, 9 September 2005. To register, please see: https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/meeting/registration/meeting.html?id=6 AGENDA A preliminary agenda will be available shortly on our website. We have reserved space in the agenda for presentations from the local community on current issues affecting the region. If there is a particular presentation or topic you would like included in the agenda, please send your suggestion to: <contact(a)ripe.net> VISA INFORMATION If you require a visa invitation letter, please contact Chistyakova Nastya at the RU-CENTER by e-mail at: <ach(a)ripn.net> When requesting a visa invitation letter, the following information is needed, including a scanned copy of your passport: Full name: Date of birth: Gender: Passport number: Single or multiple entry visa needed: Dates of stay in Russia: Place/Country of birth: Country of residence: Company name: Position in company: Work address: Visa to be received from: (City, Country) Arrival and departure cities: Chistyakova Nastya must receive your information no later than Monday, 15 August 2005. MORE INFORMATION More information about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Moscow is available from: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/moscow-2005/index.html Any further questions can be sent directly to: <contact(a)ripe.net> Regards, Nathalie Dougall Membership Liaison Officer RIPE NCC www.ripe.net

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] RIPE50 - NCC Services WG Draft Minutes
by Pavel Vachek 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

Dear Sir, let me second Mr. Hank Nussbacher's proposal. CESNET, the Czech Republic NREN, had been using the RIPE NCC hostcount data since 1997 for the same purpose. Its use is briefly described in the CESNET 1998 Annual report: http://www.cesnet.cz/doc/zprava1998/kap04.html (unfortunately, only the Czech language version seems to be available now). This data has been extremely useful for us as it helped us find organisations trying to misuse the CESNET IP space. Our access to the raw hostcount data stopped in January 2005 as well. Best regards, Pavel Vachek, CESNET NIC, Prague, The Czech Republic. On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > As someone who was not at RIPE50 but who uses hostcount, I would like to > add my comments and support. I find this service extremely useful. One > real world use is as follows: the university network in Israel has IP > addresses spanning a range of about 16 /16s. All domain names inside the > universities should terminate with ac.il or at the worst org.il. But > often students take a university Unix system that they have access to and > start using it for non-academic purposes (left as an exercise for the > reader to think of what constitutes non-academic :-)). Using grep on the > raw data file I can easily spot those systems that are running > questionable content based on their domain name (co.il for example). > > Sometimes, hackers change an IP address to some name that has certain > character strings that are unique to the hacker realm. By running a > series of greps on the raw data file I can find those systems that may > have been compromised and contact the appropriate ISP in Israel. > > So please - make hostcount work again. Incidentally, it stopped working > in Jan 2005. > > Regards, > Hank

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