
Hi, The current debates made me wonder : how come we've had an inetnum market in place whereas an inetnum cannot have a market value ? It's my understanding that the IP adress space is nothing but numbers and that RIR/LIRs are only responsible for the uniqueness of allocations and assignements, that is, a transfer of liability over a shared and common immaterial resource, between community members. I'm wondering how come we made "Temporary and conditionnal liabality transfer" a synonym of "perpetual and inconditional usufruct transfer". May you please enlight me ? Thanks ! -- Jérôme Nicolle +33 6 19 31 27 14

It's my understanding that the IP adress space is nothing but numbers
These numbers are "business-enablers" ans that's how theu gain value I guess.

On 22/02/2016 12:02, Denis Fondras wrote:
It's my understanding that the IP adress space is nothing but numbers
These numbers are "business-enablers" ans that's how theu gain value I guess.
Right, but his is motivation, not explanation. Explanation I heard is that what granted by the RIR and later sold on the market with the RIR consentment is the right to be entitled to use and be referred to as the "owner" of the ressource. The numerical ressource itself is not sold. Meaning market deals with fruit and usufruit, not bare property.

Is the discussion closed? I would like to know the conclusions popping out of all we said. Jean-Philippe ARDENOY ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.

Il faudrait que tu passes avant 17H chez JMC Loisir pour récupérer la commande et la trier. Car Synovo a besoin de sa commande pour avant lundi Cordialement, Jérémy WIES Gérant New Web SARL 8 rue Schertz Parc Phoenix B1 67100 STRASBOURG 29 rue Charles De Gaulle 68130 ALTKIRCH Tel : +33 9 51 75 17 90 / +33 6 87 32 44 90 Fax : +33 9 56 75 17 90 E-mail : jwies@new-web.fr Web : http://www.new-web.fr -----Message d'origine----- De : members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] De la part de SUPPORT CARIBSAT Envoyé : jeudi 25 février 2016 15:18 À : members-discuss@ripe.net Objet : Re: [members-discuss] About "ownership" Is the discussion closed? I would like to know the conclusions popping out of all we said. Jean-Philippe ARDENOY ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.
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Denis Fondras
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Jérémy WIES
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Jérôme Nicolle
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SUPPORT CARIBSAT
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Sylvain Vallerot