Hi, Am 14.02.2012 um 22:05 schrieb Bill Lewis:

hi,

We have a /21 IP4 and a /32 IP6 and need more IP4... We appreciate the IP4 pool is very low...but...

We have been trying to gain more IP4 , a /21 would be good, /20 idealy as equipment vendors and partners are unfortunately not yet up to speed with IP6 for production use here and therefore we need more IP4 to bridge this gap.

The issue is that it is proving impossible to gain any IP4, it is clear that we have allocated all we have and are now forced to "rent" IP space from other LIR's in order to bridge the gap.

Can somebody tell me why we are paying to be an LIR but are unable to gain modest extra resources above our initial allocation 3 years ago and therefore having to resort to renting space privately?

Perhaps somebody could clarify this please as the last request got to a point where it was clarified that all the /21 is allocated and then....nothing... We even were told we had last had an additional allocation in 2010 which is not true as we joined in 2009 and that is when we gained the initial and only blocks we have.

Our first alloc just pushes us into the Small category on its own due to being a recent-ish LIR and therefore an extra block is unlikely to increase our fees, is this why?

i'm a little unclear about what you're asking for here - if you handed in a request for a subsequent IPv4 allocation, and it was denied, then you most certainly got an explanation about the reasons. Probably it's just my english skills being impaired by the early morning and lack of coffee, but it don't see you mentioning WHY you couldn't get another allocation. Most likely you just didn't get your documentation right or something, since at this point it should be no problem to get another IPv4 allocation according to the current policy if you get the bureaucracy right. Just talk to the NCC, they certainly will explain everything. We can't really help you here due to lack of information about your situation. PROBABLY the problem is the space you "rented", so it looks like you don't need as much additional space as you're requesting because you already have that. Or you didn't register this stuff right and the NCC doesn't like you anymore for being a bad boy violating policy... But that's just a wild guess. Only the IPRAs can explain. We don't know your request or your ticket details. There is still some bits an pieces left in the RIPE IPv4 Pool. If you can show you need some more and prove your needs according to the current policy, you'll get some of the cake. P.S.: Nice to see you already got an IPv6 allocation - just push your partners and vendors a little more towards it. If they don't see the need for IPv6 at this point of time, you seriously should consider looking for other vendors and partners - next time you come back asking for another IPv4 allocation, it really might be too late. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind Regards Sascha Lenz [SLZ-RIPE] Senior System- & Network Architect