and... please stop acting like a child... it can be easily related person/ip addr. so, stop pretending someone else and stop trying to unsubscribe mailing list with fake information. as we all know that, this behaviour violates ripeNcc rules and it is against laws. Best Regards, -engur

On 13 Apr 2018, at 17:09, Ercan Ermis <ercan@vargonen.com> wrote:

Hello All,

These emails are started to annoying but it is okay. Here is the tip for this endless conversation; if you like to read all things create a rule for your Inbox health and move the email automatically. If you do not give a fuck just create a rule for auto deletion.

And please stop the talking political science because you are not a politician. Who want to war on thıs lovely planet? We have to work for a better internet and services, that’s it.

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From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Bunea TELECOM Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:02 PM To: Engür Rıza Pişirici <engur@bilkent.edu.tr> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019

Oh, I’m sorry, but this discussion is really out of hand. Are you talking about moving RIPE offices because of lower costs in certain parts of the world ? I think this is insane to even bring to subject such matters. Ripe is based in Netherlands, one of the best and most respected countries on Earth, and it should remain there. Proposing to move RIPE or even propose for RIPE to open offices in parts of the world that are politically, military and economically unstable (like Turkey or Russia) is simply BS. Even in my country, with a socialist Government we have political and economical uncertainties just about every other week.

To be honest, the only place I would RIPE to open offices any time soon is in London, which is one of the financial and IT capitals of the EU (so far). The entire world really needs to be focused on the West in every aspect possible, rather than heading East.

Sincerely, —

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On 13 Apr 2018, at 12:23, Engür Rıza Pişirici <engur@bilkent.edu.tr> wrote:

Hello All,

Istanbul might be good idea if RIPE NCC really want to move some parts of their office to Eastern Europe.

Best Regards,

-engur tr.bilkent

On 12 Apr 2018, at 22:35, Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov@gmail.com> wrote:

So what do you think about moving a part of the office of the RIPE to Eastern Europe (registration services, customer services, technicians), and leaving the management in the Netherlands? This will reduce spending for electricity, wages, taxes, and, consequently, membership fees.

чт, 12 Апр 2018 г., 21:41 Gert Doering <gert@space.net>: Hi,

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:09:47PM +0300, Juri wrote:

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Gerg, please don't move away point of main question. All those things should be discussed separately.

As people join the NCC *only* because it's cheaper to get an IPv4 /22 that way, and not for any other reason (like, IPv6, or voting rights, or "because they want to be part of the Internet community") - as long as this is (quite visibly) happening, you cannot separate resource consumption from fee structure.

Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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