Me too. And many "outgoing" activities like RIPE meetings an so... too. I'm fully satisfied with the latest finance documents. At least they have the information I asked. Vladislav Potapov ru.iiat -----Исходное сообщение----- От: "Jānis Jaunošāns" <jj@streamnetworks.lv> Отправлено: 22.10.2013 21:46 Кому: "members-discuss@ripe.net" <members-discuss@ripe.net> Тема: Re: [members-discuss] Marketing? Really? I like atlas and labs :( On 10/22/13 7:49 PM, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed this on the NCC website: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/jobs/current-openings/marketing-and-pr-...
From that page: " This is a high profile role within the organisation [...] to develop a high-level marketing, branding and PR strategy for all services." and "General Duties: [...] Write powerful and engaging promotional content for the organisation?s products and services [...]"
It really surprises me that the NCC, being a membership organisation, needs someone for marketing its products and services...
I hope I am just misunderstanding this :-) Hi Sander,
Well, you know, it doesn't surprise me that much, considering the employees talking about the NCC as a company while it in many ways is everything but a company. I think it has many similarities with a government entity. People do a lot of divese things and nobody is responsible for the financies. (Axel just goes to Nigel and says "I need 20 millinon euros next year, and then the board suggest a membership fee that will cover the expenses and we are done).
According to the activity plan, about 30ish people work with the core business: registry services. And about 100 do other stuff. Of course there has to be some infrastructure around but I still don't get what all of them are doing.
I would be very happy to see a document stating what the NCC are supposed to do. And not do.
Atlas, and labs and "no name" services are things I could do without. For example
Cheers,
Daniel
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Hi Have no problem with them as long as next year they keep budget at 20m range. consider the current member fees, I think we as business have no problem with Ripe NCC doing any outreach activities at certain amount and some "good for internet" thing at few hundreds euro member fees per year. after all, we are running a business and such cost as business is too little to be even calculated. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Vladislav Potapov <poty@iiat.ru> wrote:
Me too. And many "outgoing" activities like RIPE meetings an so... too. I'm fully satisfied with the latest finance documents. At least they have the information I asked.
Vladislav Potapov ru.iiat ________________________________ От: Jānis Jaunošāns Отправлено: 22.10.2013 21:46 Кому: members-discuss@ripe.net Тема: Re: [members-discuss] Marketing? Really?
I like atlas and labs :(
On 10/22/13 7:49 PM, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed this on the NCC website:
http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/jobs/current-openings/marketing-and-pr-...
From that page: " This is a high profile role within the organisation [...] to develop a high-level marketing, branding and PR strategy for all services." and "General Duties: [...] Write powerful and engaging promotional content for the organisation?s products and services [...]"
It really surprises me that the NCC, being a membership organisation, needs someone for marketing its products and services...
I hope I am just misunderstanding this :-) Hi Sander,
Well, you know, it doesn't surprise me that much, considering the employees talking about the NCC as a company while it in many ways is everything but a company. I think it has many similarities with a government entity. People do a lot of divese things and nobody is responsible for the financies. (Axel just goes to Nigel and says "I need 20 millinon euros next year, and then the board suggest a membership fee that will cover the expenses and we are done).
According to the activity plan, about 30ish people work with the core business: registry services. And about 100 do other stuff. Of course there has to be some infrastructure around but I still don't get what all of them are doing.
I would be very happy to see a document stating what the NCC are supposed to do. And not do.
Atlas, and labs and "no name" services are things I could do without. For example
Cheers,
Daniel
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Good to hear some voices about this anyway. Btw. can the following members please use som other addresses: Exe Net Office <office@exe-net.net> noreply@combell.com TelecityGroup Finland <fi.palvelupiste@telecity.com> This is a discussion mailing list. Posting members have no intention to create tickets. Thank you. On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Vladislav Potapov wrote:
Me too. And many "outgoing" activities like RIPE meetings an so... too. I'm fully satisfied with the latest finance documents. At least they have the information I asked.
Vladislav Potapov ru.iiat
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ??: J?nis Jaunoš?ns ??????????: ?22.?10.?2013 21:46 ????: members-discuss@ripe.net ????: Re: [members-discuss] Marketing? Really?
I like atlas and labs :(
On 10/22/13 7:49 PM, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed this on the NCC website: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/jobs/current-openings/marketing-and-pr-...
From that page: " This is a high profile role within the organisation [...] to develop a high-level marketing, branding and PR strategy for all services." and "General Duties: [...] Write powerful and engaging promotional content for the organisation?s products and services [...]"
It really surprises me that the NCC, being a membership organisation, needs someone for marketing its products and services...
I hope I am just misunderstanding this :-) Hi Sander,
Well, you know, it doesn't surprise me that much, considering the employees talking about the NCC as a company while it in many ways is everything but a company. I think it has many similarities with a government entity. People do a lot of divese things and nobody is responsible for the financies. (Axel just goes to Nigel and says "I need 20 millinon euros next year, and then the board suggest a membership fee that will cover the expenses and we are done).
According to the activity plan, about 30ish people work with the core business: registry services. And about 100 do other stuff. Of course there has to be some infrastructure around but I still don't get what all of them are doing.
I would be very happy to see a document stating what the NCC are supposed to do. And not do.
Atlas, and labs and "no name" services are things I could do without. For example
Cheers,
Daniel
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Agreed, RIPE guys will probably filter out these emails, it happens all the time. On 10/22/13 9:12 PM, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
Good to hear some voices about this anyway.
Btw. can the following members please use som other addresses:
Exe Net Office <office@exe-net.net> noreply@combell.com TelecityGroup Finland <fi.palvelupiste@telecity.com>
This is a discussion mailing list. Posting members have no intention to create tickets. Thank you.
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Vladislav Potapov wrote:
Me too. And many "outgoing" activities like RIPE meetings an so... too. I'm fully satisfied with the latest finance documents. At least they have the information I asked.
Vladislav Potapov ru.iiat
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
??: J?nis Jaunoš?ns ??????????: ?22.?10.?2013 21:46 ????: members-discuss@ripe.net ????: Re: [members-discuss] Marketing? Really?
I like atlas and labs :(
On 10/22/13 7:49 PM, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed this on the NCC website:
http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/jobs/current-openings/marketing-and-pr-...
From that page: " This is a high profile role within the
organisation [...] to develop a high-level marketing, branding and PR strategy for all services."
and "General Duties: [...] Write powerful and engaging promotional content for the organisation?s products and services [...]"
It really surprises me that the NCC, being a membership organisation, needs someone for marketing its products and services...
I hope I am just misunderstanding this :-) Hi Sander,
Well, you know, it doesn't surprise me that much, considering the employees talking about the NCC as a company while it in many ways is everything but a company. I think it has many similarities with a government entity. People do a lot of divese things and nobody is responsible for the financies. (Axel just goes to Nigel and says "I need 20 millinon euros next year, and then the board suggest a membership fee that will cover the expenses and we are done).
According to the activity plan, about 30ish people work with the core business: registry services. And about 100 do other stuff. Of course there has to be some infrastructure around but I still don't get what all of them are doing.
I would be very happy to see a document stating what the NCC are supposed to do. And not do.
Atlas, and labs and "no name" services are things I could do without. For example
Cheers,
Daniel
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